Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

I don’t know anything about other agencies hiring processes
hmmm, well I found this at the border patrol site. It says they use the poly for suitability, so I'd guess it's something that doesn't have to be listed in the SF86 under the clearance section...


"Suitability refers to an individual’s identifiable character traits and conduct that is sufficient to decide whether the individual’s employment or continued employment would or would not protect the integrity or promote the efficiency of the service. Suitability is distinguishable from a person’s ability to fulfill the qualification requirements of a job, as measured by experience, education, knowledge, and skills.


A security clearance is a determination that allows an employee access to classified information or systems when the employee has a “need to know.” A security clearance may be granted based on an administrative determination that an individual is eligible for access to classified information or systems based on the favorable security adjudication of a background investigation. Although all employees must meet the suitability requirements for employment, not all employees require a security clearance."
 
It was just done as part of their background investigation during the hiring process. Is that the same as it being done for a security clearance?
I'm former DHS, but didn't have to take a poly, I spoke to a lot of cbp guys in training and I assume whether it's for the background check or security clearance... They're both one in the same and I would assume it's attached to some federal record of yours. If you didn't admit to anything, i think they would chalk it up as inconclusive. If you admitted to something after the fact, I think they would call it a failure. I would continue to pursue atc. I wouldn't hide the fact, but I also wouldn't volunteer any more information than necessary. "Polygraph was inconclusive" THATS ALL. Those tests are finicky anyway, if it was inconclusive, I doubt the faa would hold it against you...a failure on the other hand? Nah I wouldn't waste your time.
 
Post i saw on Facebook with data from KSN... "Out of the 6,825 applications sent in, there were 6,377 that were 'system qualified' and of those 1,868 were 'HR qualified'"
 
That doesn’t seem to make sense. How could so many be disqualified? Also when so many get disqualified for test scores, medical and security, etc, they’ll end up with very few people and possibly won’t meet the hiring goal for upcoming year.
 
I can confirm this. I just saw the KSN site that says 1868 were HR qualified. Hiring goal this year is 1431. IIIF everyone passes(70%+), I would guess all/most get selected.
 
What does it mean to be HR Qualified? If they are only looking at qualified candidates, how are they selecting the 1,868? This is very scary!
 
What does it mean to be HR Qualified? If they are only looking at qualified candidates, how are they selecting the 1,868? This is very scary!
I think it means HR actually did some work and went through the applications to select qualified candidates. It sure isn't scary if you're one of the qualified candidates. I've been applying since 2013 and I've never had odds this good.
 
What does that mean? Does it mean that only 1,868 will be asked to take the AT-SA?
In recent years, HR hasn't qualified candidates like this, except for the New York TRACON bid. In that one, 1460 Applied, 858 were system qualified(ie passed the BQ, and had enough work experience that the system didnt boot them), 715 were HR qualified, 715 were invited to take the ATSA.
 
Hiring goal this year is 1431
Only ~50% can come from ots source. And bids aren’t linked to one FY or another. There’s plenty of people still in the pipeline.
 
What does it mean to be HR Qualified? If they are only looking at qualified candidates, how are they selecting the 1,868? This is very scary!

I'm also wondering this. The feeling I had (from the guy on reddit mainly, I suppose?) was that if you passed the basic quals as listed on the announcement you'd get a shot at the AT-SA. I can see a handful of people saying "well I don't have the work experience but I'll apply anyway" and not being "system qualified" because of that, but I'm curious how so many people were "system qualified" and NOT "HR qualified"—I guess the only way to see it is that my initial feeling was incorrect?
 
It's hard to believe that of all the applicants only slightly more than 27% were Actually qualified. Does HR do some type of background check before making selections? I thought that all happened later in the process. HR has to doing something other than checking to see that someone is CTI or has 3 years of progressive work experience and a citizen. If this information is accurate then everyone should be hearing any day now since the people moving on are known to the agency.
 
I would guess people who didn't properly fill out the application or include the necessary paperwork. There is no second chance to include paperwork with this bid, they aren't going to reach out and ask for your transcript or recommendation letter. But that still seems like an awful lot for HR to disqualify.
 
Only ~50% can come from ots source. And bids aren’t linked to one FY or another. There’s plenty of people still in the pipeline.
I thought the FAA was held to the 50% rule for only one or two bids. They kept the 2 pools afterward to make everyone happy, but I don't think there's anything in the current authorization that would force them to hire 50/50.
 
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