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You can also get it from here: Air Traffic Activity System (ATADS) (from any facility that sends off their traffic count)

I think I tried looking at that a few weeks ago. I don’t suspect contract uses it because our count said something along the lines of like 20 a/c a day or something. I just know we get two lists a year from OPSNET, one is the one I got ranking 6 month FCT traffic and one at the end of the FY ranking FCT stand-alone and then a full list incorporating FCT and FAA together.
 
I think I tried looking at that a few weeks ago. I don’t suspect contract uses it because our count said something along the lines of like 20 a/c a day or something. I just know we get two lists a year from OPSNET, one is the one I got ranking 6 month FCT traffic and one at the end of the FY ranking FCT stand-alone and then a full list incorporating FCT and FAA together.
If the facility reports to OPSNET or COUNTOPS then it should go there. It's worked for me with every facility I've needed to look at (FAA&FCT).
 
I generally look at the yearly count for a facility. Make sure you have a calendar year set (2018 to 2018 ), select the facility or facilities, then have a grouping set. I generally just enable the date field.

Yeah I think I tried to look at monthly and the 20 or so it said was a ways off from the 30k we’re actually doing lol I think I was in a hurry and quickly glanced at it. I’ll be a little more in depth tonight. That would be a good tool to use.
 
9 or 10 is quite the stretch. I'd give it a 7 maybe 8.

I don’t know the exact parameters that go into facility rankings so I can’t speak with any expertise on the case. However, 5k ops less than LGA (11) holds some merit in my opinion.

Of course, I am also familiar with it being a “different kind of traffic etc” but I don’t think by any means it should discount the level of traffic we’re working here. And for my first 6-7 months here, we were doing that with two opening controllers and two closing controllers.
 
While there is no denying you guys work a lot of traffic, there’s a stark difference in the faa’s eyes when it comes to ifr traffic and single prop ga beating up the pattern.

Also, the difference in numbers to LGA is pretty big when you don’t get to double click each lap.
 
While there is no denying you guys work a lot of traffic, there’s a stark difference in the faa’s eyes when it comes to ifr traffic and single prop ga beating up the pattern.

Of course. Hence me saying I know there’s a difference in type of traffic. This is always going to be a losing battle for the guy working a “little ole vfr tower” regardless of the numbers you put up.
 
I don’t know the exact parameters that go into facility rankings so I can’t speak with any expertise on the case. However, 5k ops less than LGA (11) holds some merit in my opinion.

Of course, I am also familiar with it being a “different kind of traffic etc” but I don’t think by any means it should discount the level of traffic we’re working here. And for my first 6-7 months here, we were doing that with two opening controllers and two closing controllers.
Yeah and how much of a difference are you guys than FXE and TMB?
 
Called HR and they’re still waiting on my medical. My medical POC still hasn’t gotten back to me yet this week. Shittyyyyy...
 
Yeah and how much of a difference are you guys than FXE and TMB?

FXE we’ve done more in the first six months than they do all year and TMB is sitting about 20k below the 300k mark so probably 80k more on the year than them.

Edit: FXE did 183k so we would be 2k short of their yearly with our 6 months.
 
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And from someone who has worked carrier volume and ga volume, I can assure you that the FAA has it 100% backwards

I decided to just bite my tongue but you and him are both 100% right. There IS a stark difference. When you have center and approach line up all your arrivals for you while I’m sitting here talking to 20+ aircraft in the pattern AND inbound, mixed with practice approaches, then banner ops,THEN helicopters back and forth while zero of your aircraft are tagged up, nobody you are talking to speaks English as a first language and majority of the pilots on frequency have less than 25-50 hours flight time. Sure, one could say there’s a “stark difference” in difficulty level.
 
I wholeheartedly agree with both of you. I’m just saying the FAA sees it differently and even backwards as Dolan said. That’s just the way it is, unfortunately.
 
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