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Would it be possible for a developmental to transfer to ZNY from another center?

I haven’t started training and it seems like now would be a good time to do it. I know you can choose ZNY at the academy and get it, does it work the same with a transfer?
 

thesoonerkid

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I believe if you transfer in training it’s considered a training failure. 2 successive and you can get fired. Just consider that when you consider transferring. (Assuming you’ve never been certified anywhere else)

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong
 

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Would it be possible for a developmental to transfer to ZNY from another center?

I haven’t started training and it seems like now would be a good time to do it. I know you can choose ZNY at the academy and get it, does it work the same with a transfer?
No. You can’t just choose to go there. You’d need to ERR or hardship. It’s considered a training failure
 

Bravo Delta

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I believe if you transfer in training it’s considered a training failure. 2 successive and you can get fired. Just consider that when you consider transferring. (Assuming you’ve never been certified anywhere else)

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong
2 successive training failures "could" result in termination.
 

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I believe it's in the contract like that.
We have someone in our building that ERR'd to a level 12 washed, returned to previous facility and failed to recertify, then sent to a different area in the building and again failed to certify. I was told that the union and management have never actually seen a case like this and they don't know what to do. So far the person is still employed and just waiting to see what happens. I was told they might get a staff job. I know every facility isn't like this but there is a chance you won't be fired especially if you have a lot of time in the agency.
 

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We have someone in our building that ERR'd to a level 12 washed, returned to previous facility and failed to recertify, then sent to a different area in the building and again failed to certify. I was told that the union and management have never actually seen a case like this and they don't know what to do. So far the person is still employed and just waiting to see what happens. I was told they might get a staff job. I know every facility isn't like this but there is a chance you won't be fired especially if you have a lot of time in the agency.
Lol how do you fail to recertify at your previous facility. Shows they should of never been certified in the first place. Wow. A staff job is a promotion, so hes winning.
 

GulfBravoPapa

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Lol how do you fail to recertify at your previous facility. Shows they should of never been certified in the first place. Wow. A staff job is a promotion, so hes winning.
Staff job definitely isn't a promotion... Unless you're career goals are to do nothing and be bored.
 

Jennifer E

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The airspace had changed some since they left, we also got metroplex. But yes this was the person everyone agreed should have never cpc'd and ensured it didn't happen again. No one sabotaged them, they were just really not capable and no one stood up for them the second time around.
 

ATCNOMAD

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Getting picked up at a different facility while still in training is NOT looked at as a training failure. I know because I did it before. Only officially washing out or officially withdrawing from training is looked at as a training failure. That's it.
 

ATCNOMAD

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We have someone in our building that ERR'd to a level 12 washed, returned to previous facility and failed to recertify, then sent to a different area in the building and again failed to certify. I was told that the union and management have never actually seen a case like this and they don't know what to do. So far the person is still employed and just waiting to see what happens. I was told they might get a staff job. I know every facility isn't like this but there is a chance you won't be fired especially if you have a lot of time in the agency.
Was SCT the level 12 the person went to?
 

jdatc

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Lol how do you fail to recertify at your previous facility. Shows they should of never been certified in the first place. Wow. A staff job is a promotion, so hes winning.
Seen this before. Different ways. Double ODEP to supervisor, and then up the ladder. Staff jobs, TMU, etc.... happens enough it’s not uncommon.

Problem is none of these people remember the past, or are even humbled by it.

I’d be mortified the rest of my career.
 
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ATCNOMAD

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Seen this before. Different ways. Double ODEP to supervisor, and then up the ladder. Staff jobs, TMU, etc.... happens enough it’s not uncommon.

Problem is none of these people remember the past, and are every humbled by it.

I’d be mortified the rest of my career.
Mortified rest of career is a bit extreme. But I agree with being humble. You would think someone who went through that would be more down to earth. And not walking around acting like a D bag
 
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