Developmental Transfer
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NATCA - ERR MOU/SOP take a read through here
thesoonerkid
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I believe if you transfer in training it’s considered a training failure. 2 successive and you can get fired. Just consider that when you consider transferring. (Assuming you’ve never been certified anywhere else)
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong
CaptainObvious
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No. You can’t just choose to go there. You’d need to ERR or hardship. It’s considered a training failure
It may count in the facility's statistics as a training failure, but I'm fairly sure it does NOT count against the developmental as a training failure.
boots
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It does.
Do you have a source? I have heard this repeated but it has not been true in my experience.
Bravo Delta
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2 successive training failures "could" result in termination.
Is this a grammar correction? Can and could are literally different tenses of the same word
I believe it's in the contract like that.
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We have someone in our building that ERR'd to a level 12 washed, returned to previous facility and failed to recertify, then sent to a different area in the building and again failed to certify. I was told that the union and management have never actually seen a case like this and they don't know what to do. So far the person is still employed and just waiting to see what happens. I was told they might get a staff job. I know every facility isn't like this but there is a chance you won't be fired especially if you have a lot of time in the agency.
Lol how do you fail to recertify at your previous facility. Shows they should of never been certified in the first place. Wow. A staff job is a promotion, so hes winning.
GulfBravoPapa
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Staff job definitely isn't a promotion... Unless you're career goals are to do nothing and be bored.
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The airspace had changed some since they left, we also got metroplex. But yes this was the person everyone agreed should have never cpc'd and ensured it didn't happen again. No one sabotaged them, they were just really not capable and no one stood up for them the second time around.
AlmostEligible
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Getting picked up at a different facility while still in training is NOT looked at as a training failure. I know because I did it before. Only officially washing out or officially withdrawing from training is looked at as a training failure. That's it.
AlmostEligible
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Was SCT the level 12 the person went to?
I mean if it's between not having a job or sitting at a desk. I consider it a promotion
jdatc
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Seen this before. Different ways. Double ODEP to supervisor, and then up the ladder. Staff jobs, TMU, etc.... happens enough it’s not uncommon.
Problem is none of these people remember the past, or are even humbled by it.
I’d be mortified the rest of my career.
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AlmostEligible
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Mortified rest of career is a bit extreme. But I agree with being humble. You would think someone who went through that would be more down to earth. And not walking around acting like a D bag
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Yep, maybe I should have been more vague.
