FAM Flight Status

[KingPong12]

Does anyone know the status of FAM flights? Have they returned or when they might?

 

[32andBelow]

Does anyone know the status of FAM flights? Have they returned or when they might?

They gone

 

[Roger_Roger]

Does anyone know the status of FAM flights? Have they returned or when they might?

That shit aint coming back until covid is gone and thats a maybe.

 

[32andBelow]

That shit aint coming back until covid is gone and thats a maybe.

I bet it never comes back.

 

[CF]

I bet it never comes back.

Meh. 9/11 didn’t kill it so I doubt this will. But it will be a while before it’s back

 

[JNev]

I bet it never comes back.

Why would they kill the program? Didn’t they just sink money into semi automating the request process?

 

[32andBelow]

Why would they kill the program? Didn’t they just sink money into semi automating the request process?

Cus some office person gets mad that controllers can fly for free. There’s no reason we shouldn’t just be in CASS all the time like FAA inspectors

 

[JNev]

God I wish...

 

[Horny4Vectors]

Cus some office person gets mad that controllers can fly for free. There’s no reason we shouldn’t just be in CASS all the time like FAA inspectors

We are in CASS. They added all of us in a few years ago instead of doing it on a case by case basis.

 

[32andBelow]

We are in CASS. They added all of us in a few years ago instead of doing it on a case by case basis.

I know but we can’t just show up to the gate and jump seat like everyone else in CASS can

 

[Horny4Vectors]

I know but we can’t just show up to the gate and jump seat like everyone else in CASS can

Apparently we can. I won’t say how I know that information

 

[JNev]

Yea the first time I did FDT I was astounded how disorderly and manual it is. You could easily do it like whenever and there is little to no way of anyone knowing. It's not worth the risk to me to do it but I don't see how you'd get caught unless you started bragging about it to coworkers or something

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Apparently we can. I won’t say how I know that information

Does anyone know what the actual penalty would be for doing this? I have heard a range from termination, to just having your FDT privilege's revoked for a year. I would love to know not that I would risk it, I have so many credit card points banked for flights now since all my 2020 trips were cancelled. Also I think they will bring this program back, hopefully with less restrictions, if we can go back to regular schedules we should be able to go back to this.

 

[Motodog]

Apparently we can. I won’t say how I know that information

Majority of majors now require pilots to prelist using myidtravel.com. Alaska is last one to still allow walk up jump seat as far as I know. Not sure if controllers can use the myidtravel site or not. But I do know that most ticket agents will send you packing if you just walk up.

 

[Horny4Vectors]

Majority of majors now require pilots to prelist using myidtravel.com. Alaska is last one to still allow walk up jump seat as far as I know. Not sure if controllers can use the myidtravel site or not. But I do know that most ticket agents will send you packing if you just walk up.

For pilots, yes. That was created to decrease the work load of the gate agent. Depending on city pairs, there could be 30+ pilots trying to jump seat to/from work. (Most I ever saw working for United was 67 on PIT-ORD).
They can still access CASS from the gate, though. FAA Inspectors, Dispatchers, and apparently us don’t use it. Even if you’re on an approved FAM, the only ones we prelist for right now are cargo and AAL.

 

[Acquired Taste]

Lol at you guys assuming that there will be any airlines that survive for you to even FDT on

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

if we can go back to regular schedules we should be able to go back to this.

I think this is up to the airlines... not the FAA or Natca. I cannot even visit my co-located facility...

 

[32andBelow]

I think this is up to the airlines... not the FAA or Natca. I cannot even visit my co-located facility...

Pretty sure ppl are still jump seating

 

[Morgan_Freeman_But_Not]

Pretty sure ppl are still jump seating

Can confirm that most airlines are still allowing their pilots to jump seat.

 

[Mike Kilo]

Can confirm that most airlines are still allowing their pilots to jump seat.

A lot of pilots still have to commute, I can’t imagine they could operate without allowing it.