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Getting out of NATCA

Discussion in 'General' started by Jetjammer, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. Jetjammer

    Jetjammer Chow Runner

    Just out of curiosity are any of you thinking of leaving NATCA during the next open season? If so, why? I plan on getting out because in my opinion NATCA does not represent the best interests of its members and has its hands in too many pots. Its almost as if they are an extension of the FAA.
     
  2. adub

    adub Developmental

    I am as well, for the same reason... I feel they don't represent the best interest of the members.
     
  3. Joe Allen

    Joe Allen Chow Runner

    and is getting out the way to fix it?
     
  4. adub

    adub Developmental

    Can't fix what they don't want fixed.
     
  5. vectorwagon

    vectorwagon Developmental

    No but unless you become NEB/president, which is pretty unlikely for 99.9% of us, getting out of natca is me choosing not to spend my money on people who are going to screw me anyway. They take my money happily and then tell me to stfu.... So I say ok then I'll gtfo.
     
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  6. UNABLE STBY

    UNABLE STBY Chow Runner

    So dumb. This Union is the sole reason that we have the pay, benefits, and work environment that you all are fortunate enough to enjoy.

    There will MOUs you don't like (NCEPT). There will be lousy facreps and RVPs. They may even support a political candidate you don't agree with.

    The important (and adult) thing to do is realize the collective organization of all of us is what matters at the end of the day. When you fraction that (leave) because NATCA isn't working for 'me', you are missing the whole goddamn part of a union.
     
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  7. Turn Right or Die

    Turn Right or Die Developmental

    Well said. On a local level run for President or Vice president to make changes from within.
     
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  8. adub

    adub Developmental

    You may see the good, I see more bad than good... not just locally but above and beyond as well. I don't feel it is worthwhile to pay money to people on the union payroll that aren't helping their people. There's nothing the local level can do when the guys at the top are the ones sinking the ship.
     
  9. Caldwell

    Caldwell Certified FAA

    FAA Facility:
    M03 Memphis Tracon
    Personally, I plan on staying through 2018. If Paul and Trish get re-elected in national elections, then I will more than likely bail. The problem with the membership is many have no ability to exercise individual thought and reason, and agree to whatever these assholes say. It's time to get these idiots out and get new blood in.
     
  10. Omegahare

    Omegahare Certified

    Frustration is understandable but a weaker union hurts us all.
     
  11. Uscolt45

    Uscolt45 Certified

    Nah the union will continue to sell us out to add contract towers into their pool etc. All about quantity over quality seems like.
     
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  12. BubbaJoe

    BubbaJoe FNG FAA

    FAA Facility:
    ZNY New York Center
    Look at the new york union that's the example we should all go after
     
  13. adub

    adub Developmental

    The hope is that the Union sees people leaving and begins to understand their actions are NOT ok. I do not desire to give money that goes into personal bank accounts when they're sending us down the river without a paddle. There's nothing I can do to rid the union of corruption, so I'm not going to support the union.
     
  14. wrigley615

    wrigley615 Chow Runner

    Agreed..... should we privatize though the union will be gone forever in no time.
     
  15. vectorwagon

    vectorwagon Developmental


    Yeah remember at convention despite an overwhelming majority vote on basically not wanting to privatize or at least have it up for vote -- a "last minute resolution" behind closed doors by the facrep whipping boys was voted the other way. Shocking. They're going to do what they're going to do, they preach this brotherhood bullshit then sell us down the river to further their personal agenda. Sound familiar?
     
  16. vectorwagon

    vectorwagon Developmental

    Also--does anyone even have the balls to run against Paul and Trish or will they get a visit in the middle of the night and end up with broken kneecaps if they try?

    Also, was just reminded of CFS '16 with Paul and Trish mean tweets. It was cute I guess but a huge slap in the face to the membership. Basically a fuck you. Thanks Paul and Trish, keep up the good work sinking us.
     
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  17. GulfCharlie

    GulfCharlie Certified FAA

    FAA Facility:
    PCT Potomac Tracon
    I like my kneecaps, just saying.
     
  18. Uscolt45

    Uscolt45 Certified

    You had better be at the facility you are staying at for life before running against them! Or worse, ready to bid management lol. Gonna get NATCA black listed.....
     
  19. breakaway2000

    breakaway2000 Moderator Staff Member

    Lol this and I say this not to scare you guys because you're welcome to do what you'd like. Every major Tower/TRACON/Center I visited I was always asked if I was a union member and I'm paraphrasing but what followed was always something like this, "Good, the first thing we do when we get an NCEPT priority list is to cross off all non union members".
    Now it's not impossible to move as a non union member, but as facilities are getting closer to the national average and more people are becoming eligible each panel, it will be an uphill battle.
     
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  20. MJ

    MJ Administrator Staff Member

    And if you get this in writing you have a pretty winnable ULP.
     
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