Mick Devine - How the FAA Stole Your Money: The Untold Story

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[CaptainObvious]

Propaganda or whatever. Mickey has been killing it lately

 

[LennyA21]

NDJH have experience on the contract team, shitty experience is still experience in their eyes.

 

[32andBelow]

Propaganda or whatever. Mickey has been killing it lately

He’s only campaigning on the issues that matter to controllers tho so he gets elected. Don’t fall for it b

 

[Soul_Controller]

I had always assumed the mass downgrades from 2011-12 were recession related. Which is probably true to an extent. But then when traffic came back, there was this obvious thing where only a couple of facilities got back upgraded. Everybody hit this new normal.

But there still has to be a solution. Automated counts vs hand counts is a smoke screen. Do we need less levels? A tweak to TCI? Harder downgrade criteria? Easier upgrade criteria?

 

[LennyA21]

I had always assumed the mass downgrades from 2011-12 were recession related. Which is probably true to an extent. But then when traffic came back, there was this obvious thing were only a couple of facilities got back upgraded. Everybody hit this new normal.

But there still has to be a solution. Automated counts vs hand counts is a smoke screen. Do we need less levels? A tweak to TCI? Harder downgrade criteria? Easier upgrade criteria?

Something needs to be fixed. NDJH rolled over the broken MOU into this current contract. Vote for people who want to fix shit

 

[Nothanks]

He’s only campaigning on the issues that matter to controllers tho so he gets elected. Don’t fall for it b

So you are in the Jamaal camp for vp?

 

[32andBelow]

So you are in the Jamaal camp for vp?

No I’m being sarcastic

 

[CaptainObvious]

I had always assumed the mass downgrades from 2011-12 were recession related. Which is probably true to an extent. But then when traffic came back, there was this obvious thing were only a couple of facilities got back upgraded. Everybody hit this new normal.

But there still has to be a solution. Automated counts vs hand counts is a smoke screen. Do we need less levels? A tweak to TCI? Harder downgrade criteria? Easier upgrade criteria?

Curious what Jamaal’s plan is

 

[echster]

I'm still not going to vote to re-elect any representative at any level because of my personal dissatisfaction with maintaining the status quo.... but the numbers show the systematic gutting of the "middle class" of our profession. Today, we are largely a workforce of haves and have-nots. By-and-large, the FAA did not force TCI upon us as much as our "leaders" took it in the ass willingly. Worse, they took it in the ass without even doing their own homework... and I didn't need the video to remind me of that as I was against ratification before any of these cats and their newfound hindsight-like 20/20 vision.

- 296 facilities in 2002 vs. 304 facilities in 2023... this is 804-related actions with more realignments/consolidations to come thanks to FAA Reauthorization and $5 billion extra in sweet, sweet Infrastructure and Jobs Act cash to dole out.

- By generally-accepted groupings...
- ATC 10-12: 57 facilities in 2002 vs. 50 facilities in 2023
- ATC 7-9: 165 facilities in 2002 vs. 124 facilities in 2023
- ATC 4-6: 74 facilities in 2002 vs. 130 facilities in 2023

- By less generally-accepted groupings...
- ATC 11-12: 40 facilities in 2002 vs. 39 facilities in 2023
- ATC 9-10: 51 facilities in 2002 vs. 38 facilities in 2023
- ATC 7-8: 131 facilities in 2002 vs. 97 facilities in 2023
- ATC 5-6: 74 facilities in 2002 vs. 114 facilities in 2023
- ATC 4: 0 facilities in 2002 vs. 16 facilities in 2023

 

[KP-ATC]

Curious what Jamaal’s plan is

Punch someone in the face

 

[Dousand24]

Mick gots my vote… What’s his take on Covid Hazard Back pay??

 

[HurryUpandWait]

Mick gots my vote… What’s his take on Covid Hazard Back pay??

Hazard back pay from a fake virus?

 

[GulfCharlie]

I'm still not going to vote to re-elect any representative at any level because of my personal dissatisfaction with maintaining the status quo.... but the numbers show the systematic gutting of the "middle class" of our profession. Today, we are largely a workforce of haves and have-nots. By-and-large, the FAA did not force TCI upon us as much as our "leaders" took it in the ass willingly. Worse, they took it in the ass without even doing their own homework... and I didn't need the video to remind me of that as I was against ratification before any of these cats and their newfound hindsight-like 20/20 vision.

- 296 facilities in 2002 vs. 304 facilities in 2023... this is 804-related actions with more realignments/consolidations to come thanks to FAA Reauthorization and $5 billion extra in sweet, sweet Infrastructure and Jobs Act cash to dole out.

- By generally-accepted groupings...
- ATC 10-12: 57 facilities in 2002 vs. 50 facilities in 2023
- ATC 7-9: 165 facilities in 2002 vs. 124 facilities in 2023
- ATC 4-6: 74 facilities in 2002 vs. 130 facilities in 2023

- By less generally-accepted groupings...
- ATC 11-12: 40 facilities in 2002 vs. 39 facilities in 2023
- ATC 9-10: 51 facilities in 2002 vs. 38 facilities in 2023
- ATC 7-8: 131 facilities in 2002 vs. 97 facilities in 2023
- ATC 5-6: 74 facilities in 2002 vs. 114 facilities in 2023
- ATC 4: 0 facilities in 2002 vs. 16 facilities in 2023

Promote this man

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Mick gots my vote… What’s his take on Covid Hazard Back pay??

Sometimes fuck bag loyalists will say "what articles in the contract are you willing to throw away if you want to re-negotiate the whole thing just for a chance at a pay raise?".

Well, there are at least 60 or so articles in the contract I would give up to get a pay raise. But the number one overall is the Hazard Pay article. Because it is simply not real. When you read it is basically specifically describes the COVID situations (I know COVID was fake, but everyone was pretending it was real at the time). If they could not get hazard pay for that, and they apparently didn't even try, then that article is useless and could not even be applied with bubonic plague or a zombie apocalypse.

 

[32andBelow]

I swear half the articles are just OPM best practices that they rewrote

 

[Kramer]

Hey Mick, curious your opinion on how natca (failed to) handled the vaccine especially those that didn't get it.

Specifically how natca failed to relay that the "deadline" was extended twice and was late relaying the injuction.

 

[KP-ATC]

Hey Mick, curious your opinion on how natca (failed to) handled the vaccine especially those that didn't get it.

Specifically how natca failed to relay that the "deadline" was extended twice and was late relaying the injuction.

He made his position quite clear at the time - take the shot(s) or get fired.

 

[EightTwoSierra]

Sometimes fuck bag loyalists will say "what articles in the contract are you willing to throw away if you want to re-negotiate the whole thing just for a chance at a pay raise?".

Well, there are at least 60 or so articles in the contract I would give up to get a pay raise. But the number one overall is the Hazard Pay article. Because it is simply not real. When you read it is basically specifically describes the COVID situations (I know COVID was fake, but everyone was pretending it was real at the time). If they could not get hazard pay for that, and they apparently didn't even try, then that article is useless and could not even be applied with bubonic plague or a zombie apocalypse.

I kinda assume if we ever got to the point of hazard pay, we would be dead anyways lol.

 

[Dousand24]

Sometimes fuck bag loyalists will say "what articles in the contract are you willing to throw away if you want to re-negotiate the whole thing just for a chance at a pay raise?".

Well, there are at least 60 or so articles in the contract I would give up to get a pay raise. But the number one overall is the Hazard Pay article. Because it is simply not real. When you read it is basically specifically describes the COVID situations (I know COVID was fake, but everyone was pretending it was real at the time). If they could not get hazard pay for that, and they apparently didn't even try, then that article is useless and could not even be applied with bubonic plague or a zombie apocalypse.

List the 60 articles you’ll get rid of?? I would give a 20% pay cut for 5/10 the rest of my career with no accrual of annual leave