Wake Turbulence RECAT - Is it worth the effort?

J58Bear

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Alright what’s everyone out there think about Recategorization? From what I’m gathering, the FAA wants us controllers to have to increase our thinking workload while doing something already stressful just to save literally a few miles of flying. Another reason apparently is to reduce the carbon footprint of over 100,000 flights in the US everyday by again… reducing flights by just a few miles. I just feel like the benefits of RECAT are far outweighed with a degradation of safety by increasing controller workload. The 7110 says it is acknowledged that it is impossible to know and apply performance characteristics of all known aircraft anyway so why would they recategorize everything and make an even bigger mess out of the way we separate airplanes? I’m all for making the NAS more efficient but that is something that should be approached carefully and with safety being the highest priority in doing so. I just feel like what we do should be kept as simple as possible for good reasons… and this isn’t one of them.
 

Atcbrownie

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Been using CWT for years at PCT. There is no increase in "thinking workload". If you follow the . 65 wake turbulence rules you will never have a wake turbulence deal with recat. All recat does is allow you to decrease the amount of separation required in certain situations.
 

Mc15

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Alright what’s everyone out there think about Recategorization? From what I’m gathering, the FAA wants us controllers to have to increase our thinking workload while doing something already stressful just to save literally a few miles of flying. Another reason apparently is to reduce the carbon footprint of over 100,000 flights in the US everyday by again… reducing flights by just a few miles. I just feel like the benefits of RECAT are far outweighed with a degradation of safety by increasing controller workload. The 7110 says it is acknowledged that it is impossible to know and apply performance characteristics of all known aircraft anyway so why would they recategorize everything and make an even bigger mess out of the way we separate airplanes? I’m all for making the NAS more efficient but that is something that should be approached carefully and with safety being the highest priority in doing so. I just feel like what we do should be kept as simple as possible for good reasons… and this isn’t one of them.
LMFAO
 

GulfBravoPapa

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I've work probably four different versions of wake turbulence already in my career. This is not a big deal and not hard to learn. Only complaint compared to the "good old days" is that H should be heavy 🤣

That and D heavy jets suck... they need to figure out their actual weight class because 5 MIT is not my favorite.
 

chaos

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When you go through the training it seems daunting with all the new letters... In reality it's pretty easy and reduces separation in most instances making life easier. You'll be fine, don't panic.
 

Atcbrownie

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Literally just a flip of a switch. Your OSF will put in a stars build in conjunction with a FDIO update. Done.

I can probably upload the PowerPoint if y'all want it
 

Smitty

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Remember the recurrent training in like 2016 where they said the small Jet like 20 miles in trail of the Super "almost flipped over", but nothing further. No change to any separation. Just an FYI. #SafetyWuzNeverCompromised



Dog Wind GIF
 

32andBelow

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Remember the recurrent training in like 2016 where they said the small Jet like 20 miles in trail of the Super "almost flipped over", but nothing further. No change to any separation. Just an FYI. #SafetyWuzNeverCompromised



Dog Wind GIF
Caution a380 20 mile ahead of you. Maintain block 340b380 for your flip
 

CoffeeIV

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I thought recat would be annoying to learn but I love it. Easier for the final to run them tighter/not have to worry as much. Tower isn't slowed down as much by heavies in the mix.
 
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