Consider all current and new rules while imagining new schedules

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7210.3 DD With new rules inserted.

2−6−7. BASIC WATCH SCHEDULE

a. Facility watch schedules must take into account normal traffic flow, thereby permitting the posting of a continuing schedule for an indefinite period of time. Facility management is responsible for ensuring watch schedules are in accordance with collective bargaining agreements.

b. Air traffic control specialists whose primary duties are those directly related to the control and separation of aircraft must meet the following criteria:

1. Do not work more than 10 operational hours in a shift.

2. Hours worked before a shift, whether operational or not, will count as operational hours.

3. All work beyond 10 hours must be nonoperational.

4. Have at least an 8−hour a 10-hour break from the time work ends to the start of any shift, except as follows:

(a) Employees are required to have a minimum of 9 10 consecutive hours off duty preceding the start of a day shift. For purposes of this paragraph only, a day shift is generally defined as a shift where the majority of hours fall between 7:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m.

(b) This requirement applies to all shift changes, swaps, and overtime to include scheduled, call−in, and holdover assignments.

5. Have an off−duty period of at least 12 hours before and following a midnight shift. (A midnight shift is defined as a shift in which the majority of hours are worked between 10:30 p.m. and 6:30 a.m.)

6. If an employee is assigned more than two (2) consecutive ten (10) hour midnight shifts, all of the consecutive ten (10) hour midnight shifts require a 2100L (Non flex) start time.

7. Ten (10) hour midnight shifts are limited to no more than four (4) in any six (6) day period.

8. No day shift may immediately precede a ten (10) hour midnight shift.

9. Eight hour midnight shifts may be extended by no more than one (1) hour per single shift.

10. A 0530L start time or later is required when working an eight hour day shift prior to an eight hour midnight shift. Employees may not flex to an earlier start time than 0530L.

11. Do not work more than six shifts without taking a regular day off.

12. Have at least 30 consecutive hours off−duty within each seven−day period.

13. Authorized leave, compensatory time used, and credit hours used are considered hours of work.

14. These criteria apply to shift adjustments, including the exchange of shifts and/or days off and the change of shifts and/or days off.
 
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6. If an employee is assigned more than two (2) consecutive ten (10) hour midnight shifts, all of the consecutive ten (10) hour midnight shifts require a 2100L (Non flex) start time.
this saying we can work four 10s? A ten hour midnight shift?
 
Yes, you can work a 10 hour mid shift.

"7. Ten (10) hour midnight shifts are limited to no more than four (4) in any six (6) day period. "
 
Part ten is going to be removed/revised because it is not possible with the new rules.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but a reverse rattler (starting with a mid and ending with an eve) would eliminate eligibility for almost all OT with the 30 hour requirement.
Just means your OT has to be a day shift on your first RDO. You are still in the building every day.
 
Just means your OT has to be a day shift on your first RDO. You are still in the building every day.
Right. But combined with the 10 hour rule, it gets pretty tricky depending on when your eve shift ends. Idk how you could even cover the OT necessary at most facilities.
 
13. Authorized leave, compensatory time used, and credit hours used are considered hours of work.
Everyone's been saying "OMG they can't give you excused absence to make the timing work because leave is considered hours of work." Well first of all they could just change that, but second is "excused absence" even the same as "authorized leave"? There's no excused-absence-balance you're drawing from, for example.
 
Everyone's been saying "OMG they can't give you excused absence to make the timing work because leave is considered hours of work." Well first of all they could just change that, but second is "excused absence" even the same as "authorized leave"? There's no excused-absence-balance you're drawing from, for example.
 
So they changed the rules but aren't giving any guidance (or suggestions) on how to implement (cover all the shifts)? As I said in another thread, if their solution to cover all the shifts is OT, where do you get all those bodies from and how does this change actually address fatigue issues? Working an extra day for more rest mid-week is more harmful.
 
Wouldn’t straight lines like any other 24hr industry solve this? It’s really not that complicated. This rattler and now possible reverse rattler is an ATC invention that no one else has ever heard of, let alone actually works.
Straight mids aren’t legal for pilots due to fatigue. Idk why they would be for us. At least not with out sleep pods.

A certificate holder may schedule and a flightcrew member may accept up to five consecutive flight duty periods that infringe on the window of circadian low if the certificate holder provides the flightcrew member with an opportunity to rest in a suitable accommodation during each of the consecutive nighttime flight duty periods. The rest opportunity must be at least 2 hours, measured from the time that the flightcrew member reaches the suitable accommodation, and must comply with the conditions specified in § 117.15(a), (c), (d), and (e). Otherwise, no certificate holder may schedule and no flightcrew member may accept more than three consecutive flight duty periods that infringe on the window of circadian low. For purposes of this section, any split duty rest that is provided in accordance with § 117.15 counts as part of a flight duty period.
 
Straight mids aren’t legal for pilots due to fatigue. Idk why they would be for us. At least not with out sleep pods.

A certificate holder may schedule and a flightcrew member may accept up to five consecutive flight duty periods that infringe on the window of circadian low if the certificate holder provides the flightcrew member with an opportunity to rest in a suitable accommodation during each of the consecutive nighttime flight duty periods. The rest opportunity must be at least 2 hours, measured from the time that the flightcrew member reaches the suitable accommodation, and must comply with the conditions specified in § 117.15(a), (c), (d), and (e). Otherwise, no certificate holder may schedule and no flightcrew member may accept more than three consecutive flight duty periods that infringe on the window of circadian low. For purposes of this section, any split duty rest that is provided in accordance with § 117.15 counts as part of a flight duty period.
I mean, this is pretty similar to what we have in practice other than the fact that our "suitable accommodation" is a break room lol. We also don't travel for work, we get to go home and sleep in our beds after the mid. At least in theory
 
I mean, this is pretty similar to what we have in practice other than the fact that our "suitable accommodation" is a break room lol. We also don't travel for work, we get to go home and sleep in our beds after the mid. At least in theory
Suitable accommodation means a temperature-controlled facility with sound mitigation and the ability to control light that provides a flightcrew member with the ability to sleep either in a bed, bunk or in a chair that allows for flat or near flat sleeping position. Suitable accommodation only applies to ground facilities and does not apply to aircraft onboard rest facilities.

My break room doesn’t meat that definition.
 
So they changed the rules
They haven't officially changed the rules yet. The first post on this thread is inserting what we were told the new rules would be into the current language, just for a comparison. We don't know if they're going to change other rules at the same time.
 
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