Shoot The Breeze 3.0

[Logical_Mongoose]

Stay strapped like Fred: don't need no sub-compact when a full size hides fine under a cardigan.

 

[Uglytaco]

Cry harder babyyyyy

 

[Homsar]

Not ignoring, I read it, I've already made my position clear, and not responding. There is a difference.

"I've already made my position clear on something Rittenhouse is guilty on, and no fact challenging my belief can prove otherwise."

You sound like a Q believer at this point.

It's not at all.

Now you're denying you typed your own posts? It gets worse and worse

Again, no, not the point I was making, which was throwing lead at high speed from a firearm was made a thing for a reason and it wasn't punching paper, as much as yes, that is an enjoyable activity.

You can't process the idea of something being invented for one reason, and as other uses are found, that something being produced at a later time for only that reason and not the reason the something was invented for in the first place. It's almost comical.

It's like saying that everything on this list is being used incorrectly for it's primary use, because the inventors of most of them meant to be making something else or doing something else with the item upon it's invention. No one says that my microwave's primary use is for science experiments because that's what it was invented to do, it's primary use is heating up and cooking food. It's the same thing with modern .22lr firearms: Guns were invented long ago to kill people, but Ruger doesn't consider killing as any part of the creation process of 10/22s, since they're not made for that. I can't wait for you to go into Best Buy and tell the store worker to make sure everyone knows that microwaves they sell aren't used for cooking food, since that's what they weren't invented for.

In fact thats exactly how it works in many situations in many places, reference every bar fight where someone ends up in jail on manslaughter charges, or a great many shootings, stabbings etc. State of mind and extenuating circumstances absolutely come to play in many court cases. I'm no lawyer, neither are you, but it doesn't take much looking into current events to see that.

I literally went over that.

Last I checked the definition of a "fudd" was an typically older, right wing, nra sticker having dude who thinks all guns should be wood and steel and only used for hunting and target shooting, is for assault weapons bans, and thinks anything designed last 1955 is utter trash.

A fudd includes people who would sell out other gun owners on gun legislation or gun rights, much as you are trying to throw Rittenhouse under the bus for a clear case of self defense. If the shoe fits...

But cool you wanna label me with some made up meme culture gun term.....sure I guess knock yourself out?

I've been justifiably calling people fudds since I logged into AR15.com on AOL. "Meme culture gun term," ha.

Wait do people here think Zimmerman actually should have gotten away with it?, what kind of ass backwards thinking is that. I guess the racist pigs that killed Ahmaud Arbery should get off too since someone scary was JOGGING through the neighborhood

Yeah, Zimmerman having his head bashed into the concrete and bleeding is totally not enough of a reason for self defense, he should have just took the concussion or brain damage because it was the right thing to do. Thank god you weren't on that jury.

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Cry harder babyyyyy

Gibbons-cels on suicide watch. He was so sure he was right, too, but then again he always is.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

"I've already made my position clear on something Rittenhouse is guilty on, and no fact challenging my belief can prove otherwise."

You sound like a Q believer at this point.

No I've made my position on how I feel about his actions clear. His guilt or innocence is up to the court. Know the difference.

Now you're denying you typed your own posts? It gets worse and worse

Feel free to scroll back and find where I said that.

You can't process the idea of something being invented for one reason, and as other uses are found, that something being produced at a later time for only that reason and not the reason the something was invented for in the first place. It's almost comical.

It's like saying that everything on this list is being used incorrectly for it's primary use, because the inventors of most of them meant to be making something else or doing something else with the item upon it's invention. No one says that my microwave's primary use is for science experiments because that's what it was invented to do, it's primary use is heating up and cooking food. It's the same thing with modern .22lr firearms: Guns were invented long ago to kill people, but Ruger doesn't consider killing as any part of the creation process of 10/22s, since they're not made for that. I can't wait for you to go into Best Buy and tell the store worker to make sure everyone knows that microwaves they sell aren't used for cooking food, since that's what they weren't invented for.

What? 10/22s are a great small game gun. This is all nonsensical semantics games, which isnexsctly why most conversations with you are pointless.

A fudd includes people who would sell out other gun owners on gun legislation or gun rights, much as you are trying to throw Rittenhouse under the bus for a clear case of self defense. If the shoe fits...

I'm not selling anyone out, or advocating for anything. I'm saying to me, in my opinion, actively involving yourself in a situation where there's a likelihood you end up in a "self defense" situation isn't self defense at all.

I've been justifiably calling people fudds since I logged into AR15.com on AOL. "Meme culture gun term," ha.

Okay. Cool I guess?

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Yeah, Zimmerman having his head bashed into the concrete and bleeding is totally not enough of a reason for self defense, he should have just took the concussion or brain damage because it was the right thing to do. Thank god you weren't on that jury.

No what he shouldn't have done was seen some kid walking between two apartment buildings and decide to get out of his car and confront him for no reason but because the gun he had in his pants made him feel special and important, again, someone who inserted himself in a situation he could have avoided by not actively pursuing a confrontation.

Gibbons-cels on suicide watch. He was so sure he was right, too, but then again he always is.

Got me there wish.com Ben Shapiro. I'm totally heartbroken. Whatever shall I do?

 

[CF]

Homsar really piling up the fallacies today. He even gave us a “No True Scotsman,” one of my favorites.

 

[32andBelow]

So just for fun. If rittenhouse is convicted will this judge overrule the jury? He seems a bit whacky!

 

[Uglytaco]

So just for fun. If rittenhouse is convicted will this judge overrule the jury? He seems a bit whacky!

If if if. Here’s this if argument and if this happens what do you think about if? Stick to the facts my guy, get off dream land

 

[32andBelow]

If if if. Here’s this if argument and if this happens what do you think about if? Stick to the facts my guy, get off dream land

We aren’t actually lawyers of this case lol. We can just talk about whatever

 

[Homsar]

No I've made my position on how I feel about his actions clear. His guilt or innocence is up to the court. Know the difference.

What I’ve bolded below are statements of fact, not feelings. We’ve already begun the backtracking ?

I love how all the Rittenhouse apologists/fan boys are in here flouting all the lawlessness and illegality going on during the riot as an excuse for his actions, yet not a single one, in multiple posts where I mentioned Rittenhouse himself, in the act of carrying the firearm at the center of this whole discussion, was breaking state and federal laws by doing so is acknowledging his own illegal actions like he's some kind of hero. I just don't get it.

Like so what MikeKilo , breaking a window is a death sentence at the hands of a vigilante, no trial, no jury, boom property crime=dead, but illegally possessing a firearm, which was illegally purchased, in an act of vigilantism not sanctioned by any body of authority or any property owner is peak law and order? What a fuckin joke of a position to take.... I'm sorry thats just fuckin ludicrous.

I know that “I was wrong” isn’t in your vocabulary, but give it a try sometime.

Feel free to scroll back and find where I said that.

Literally right here:


“It’s not [my exact quote] at all.”

What? 10/22s are a great small game gun. This is all nonsensical semantics games, which isnexsctly why most conversations with you are pointless.

Ruger® 10/22® Autoloading Rifle

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Not a single mention of it being advertised as a “killing machine,” because it’s not made for that. Remember, “I was wrong” isn’t that hard to say.

I'm not selling anyone out, or advocating for anything. I'm saying to me, in my opinion, actively involving yourself in a situation where there's a likelihood you end up in a "self defense" situation isn't self defense at all.

You’re saying you don’t support someone in a clear cut self defense case. It’s that today, someone possessing a bump stock tomorrow, someone possessing a AR-15 if Beto tries to take them away in 10 years. You’re a fudd.

Okay. Cool I guess?

It was just a great illustration of you not knowing what you’re talking about, once again.

No what he shouldn't have done was seen some kid walking between two apartment buildings and decide to get out of his car and confront him for no reason but because the gun he had in his pants made him feel special and important, again, someone who inserted himself in a situation he could have avoided by not actively pursuing a confrontation.

He shouldn’t have done that, but it’s still clear cut self defense when he shot Martin, because the law doesn’t care about what happened before he was getting his head bashed into the concrete, in this case. Still waiting for you to tell me about how all of my examples of people being killed because they “inserted themselves into situations they could have avoided” (your words, paraphrased) deserved it.

Got me there wish.com Ben Shapiro. I'm totally heartbroken. Whatever shall I do?

Hopefully have a reality check and realize how very wrong you are.

Homsar really piling up the fallacies today. He even gave us a “No True Scotsman,” one of my favorites.

Most people on here wouldn’t know a logical fallacy if they had to do a 4 hour elms on the term. Shoot your shot.

 

[Tuco_Benidito]

 

[Homsar]

I really love these I saw the other day.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

What I’ve bolded below are statements of fact, not feelings. We’ve already begun the backtracking ?


I know that “I was wrong” isn’t in your vocabulary, but give it a try sometime.


Literally right here:

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“It’s not [my exact quote] at all.”

So.....you expect me to have a time machine and go back in time and know yesterday that today the judge would take that charge off the table?

Ruger® 10/22® Autoloading Rifle

ruger.com

Not a single mention of it being advertised as a “killing machine,” because it’s not made for that. Remember, “I was wrong” isn’t that hard to say.

Still waiting for you to show where I said a 10/22 was a killing machine, or do anything but recognize what guns were originally intended for, are fully capable of, and any sane person not so wound up in thier own bullshit recognizes as such.

You’re saying you don’t support someone in a clear cut self defense case. It’s that today, someone possessing a bump stock tomorrow, someone possessing a AR-15 if Beto tries to take them away in 10 years. You’re a fudd.

Because in my opinion it's not a clear cut case at all, and a lot of people share that opinion, which is why there is a trial. And nice slippery slope fallacy man, peoples right to keep and bear arms isn't the same as someone taking it upon themselves to go out and be a vigilante against their fellow citizens.

It was just a great illustration of you not knowing what you’re talking about, once again.



He shouldn’t have done that, but it’s still clear cut self defense when he shot Martin, because the law doesn’t care about what happened before he was getting his head bashed into the concrete, in this case. Still waiting for you to tell me about how all of my examples of people being killed because they “inserted themselves into situations they could have avoided” (your words, paraphrased) deserved it.

I've been through this not typing it again.

Hopefully have a reality check and realize how very wrong you are.

What? A reality check where I decide to be a big bad man and drive out of town to take the law into my own hands with zero law enforcement training and try and contain a protest/riot/mob/insert your favorite term here by myself? Or one where I actively pursue a confrontation of some sort and get my ass whipped by a teenager so bad I shoot him? I'm a pretty nonviolent, non confrontational kinda guy, that shit is dumb. Some might say I made my own bed there.

Nah hard pass my dude, I'll just keep doing what I do, which is not make terrible life decisions that necessitate me needing to use a gun against another human in the first place. We wouldn't be having this conversation if either one of those dudes was minding his own business pumping gas or walking home or got physically removed from thier car or whatever and just got attacked. I'd be totally on board then, but that's not what happened in either.

I mean you hard-core libertarians wanna live by the gun, die by the gun, not pay taxes, have any social responsibilities towards your fellow citizens and generally be able to do what you want there's plenty of places to live out that fantasy. Somalia is probably pretty nice this time of year. Looked like pristine beaches when I watched Blackhawk down.

 

[32andBelow]

So.....you expect me to have a time machine and go back in time and know yesterday that today the judge would take that charge off the table?


Still waiting for you to show where I said a 10/22 was a killing machine, or do anything but recognize what guns were originally intended for, are fully capable of, and any sane person not so wound up in thier own bullshit recognizes as such.


Because in my opinion it's not a clear cut case at all, and a lot of people share that opinion, which is why there is a trial. And nice slippery slope fallacy man, peoples right to keep and bear arms isn't the same as someone taking it upon themselves to go out and be a vigilante against their fellow citizens.


I've been through this not typing it again.


What? A reality check where I decide to be a big bad man and drive out of town to take the law into my own hands with zero law enforcement training and try and contain a protest/riot/mob/insert your favorite term here by myself? Or one where I actively pursue a confrontation of some sort and get my ass whipped by a teenager so bad I shoot him? I'm a pretty nonviolent, non confrontational kinda guy, that shit is dumb. Some might say I made my own bed there.

Nah hard pass my dude, I'll just keep doing what I do, which is not make terrible life decisions that necessitate me needing to use a gun against another human in the first place. We wouldn't be having this conversation if either one of those dudes was minding his own business pumping gas or walking home or got physically removed from thier car or whatever and just got attacked. I'd be totally on board then, but that's not what happened in either.

I mean you hard-core libertarians wanna live by the gun, die by the gun, not pay taxes, have any social responsibilities towards your fellow citizens and generally be able to do what you want there's plenty of places to live out that fantasy. Somalia is probably pretty nice this time of year. Looked like pristine beaches when I watched Blackhawk down.

Speaking of Blackhawk down there is a YouTube channel called the operations room that goes through different battles. They just did a 2 part about Blackhawk down and it’s really cool

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Speaking of Blackhawk down there is a YouTube channel called the operations room that goes through different battles. They just did a 2 part about Blackhawk down and it’s really cool

If you like military history check out the lions led by donkeys podcast. Dude leans pretty hard left and just makes fun of odd characters and war criminals and blunders in military history. The big multipart series they do are pretty informative as well. Nice change up for me while waiting months between hard-core history episodes.

 

[32andBelow]

If you like military history check out the lions led by donkeys podcast. Dude leans pretty hard left and just makes fun of odd characters and war criminals and blunders in military history. The big multipart series they do are pretty informative as well. Nice change up for me while waiting months between hard-core history episodes.

Dude what’s up with hard core history? Does he not put all of them on Spotify? I’ve gotten through pretty much all of them on Spotify but it doesn’t seem like he really adds

 

[Homsar]

So.....you expect me to have a time machine and go back in time and know yesterday that today the judge would take that charge off the table?

I expect you to say that you were wrong, something you’ve demonstrated you’re incapable of doing.

Still waiting for you to show where I said a 10/22 was a killing machine

A 10/22 is a firearm, is it not? You said the “express purpose” of a firearm is to kill.



Last sentence, pretty self explanatory. Remember, “I was wrong” is not that hard to say. I don’t think I can keep replying if you refuse to admit when you’re wrong.

, or do anything but recognize what guns were originally intended for, are fully capable of, and any sane person not so wound up in thier own bullshit recognizes as such.

Not the argument here. Go buy a microwave and sort by scientific experiment potential on Amazon, since that’s what they are originally intended for and are fully capable of.

Because in my opinion it's not a clear cut case at all, and a lot of people share that opinion, which is why there is a trial.

There’s a trial because of an overzealous DA caving to political pressure, not a question of evidence. The absolute joke of a prosecution effort in the trial shows that.

And nice slippery slope fallacy man, peoples right to keep and bear arms isn't the same as someone taking it upon themselves to go out and be a vigilante against their fellow citizens.

Self defense is self defense, period.

What? A reality check where I decide to be a big bad man and drive out of town to take the law into my own hands with zero law enforcement training and try and contain a protest/riot/mob/insert your favorite term here by myself? Or one where I actively pursue a confrontation of some sort and get my ass whipped by a teenager so bad I shoot him? I'm a pretty nonviolent, non confrontational kinda guy, that shit is dumb. Some might say I made my own bed there.

Nah hard pass my dude, I'll just keep doing what I do, which is not make terrible life decisions that necessitate me needing to use a gun against another human in the first place. We wouldn't be having this conversation if either one of those dudes was minding his own business pumping gas or walking home or got physically removed from thier car or whatever and just got attacked. I'd be totally on board then, but that's not what happened in either.

I mean you hard-core libertarians wanna live by the gun, die by the gun, not pay taxes, have any social responsibilities towards your fellow citizens and generally be able to do what you want there's plenty of places to live out that fantasy. Somalia is probably pretty nice this time of year. Looked like pristine beaches when I watched Blackhawk down.

2/10 rant. More like a reality check that you’re spouting false information, and having ridiculously bad takes on things.

Let me know when you’re ready to say you were wrong, it’s never too late.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Dude what’s up with hard core history? Does he not put all of them on Spotify? I’ve gotten through pretty much all of them on Spotify but it doesn’t seem like he really adds

After a couple years the back catalog goes to the website. It's like a buck an episode. I was late to the party I've paid for a lot of them, but it's worth it. First one I listened to was the ww1 series I was hooked after that.

 

[32andBelow]

After a couple years the back catalog goes to the website. It's like a buck an episode. I was late to the party I've paid for a lot of them, but it's worth it. First one I listened to was the ww1 series I was hooked after that.

Me 2. It really got me into ww1. I spent a whole winter listening to take while I was driving to go snowboard. It was so many hours of content

 

[Peter Gibbons]

I expect you to say that you were wrong, something you’ve demonstrated you’re incapable of doing.



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A 10/22 is a firearm, is it not? You said the “express purpose” of a firearm is to kill.

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Last sentence, pretty self explanatory. Remember, “I was wrong” is not that hard to say. I don’t think I can keep replying if you refuse to admit when you’re wrong.



Not the argument here. Go buy a microwave and sort by scientific experiment potential on Amazon, since that’s what they are originally intended for and are fully capable of.



There’s a trial because of an overzealous DA caving to political pressure, not a question of evidence. The absolute joke of a prosecution effort in the trial shows that.



Self defense is self defense, period.


2/10 rant. More like a reality check that you’re spouting false information, and having ridiculously bad takes on things.

Let me know when you’re ready to say you were wrong, it’s never too late.

Bravo dollar store tucker Carlson you dug thru my post history and found.....exactly what I said I was saying to begin with. Good job. You really got me there.

Yes self defense is self defense. Except when it's not. Therin lies the rub.

As of yesterday when the charges were on the table, it wasn't false. Why don't you go on Amazon and find me a time machine while you are at it, and if my "ridiculously bad takes" mean thinking differently than a blind absolutist with a gunpowder fetish.....sweet. I'm okay with that.

 

[CF]

While the gun guys have their attention here I would like to ask. Is it still impossible to get ammo? Was thinking of driving over to bass pro to get some .40 s&w and was wondering if it was a pointless venture.