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Did you mean to quote me or am I just missing the point
Point that Homsars rally against masks isn't omicron specific. Quoted a discussion you guys had Mid last year to back my assertion up.

Subject change for all your consideration:

“Let’s go Brandon” mask falls under the airlines’ “offensive in nature” category.

That is pathetic lol.
I don't know what it is, but I'm actually less bothered by people saying "fuck Joe Biden" than I am "Let's Go Brandon".

Maybe it's because to use the phrase is cuckish in nature.
 
I don't know what it is, but I'm actually less bothered by people saying "fuck Joe Biden" than I am "Let's Go Brandon".

Maybe it's because to use the phrase is cuckish in nature.
God damn you're fucking dense. Do you get paid to troll on here all day, or do you do it for free?
I'm not going to assume you know, but that terrible phrase came from your side. Even Biden.gov agreed with it.
 
God damn you're fucking dense. Do you get paid to troll on here all day, or do you do it for free?
I'm not going to assume you know, but that terrible phrase came from your side. Even Biden.gov agreed with it.
I don’t think they comprehend the origins and/or the point of the fake news creating that phrase, at all.

4 years of “fuck Trump”, music videos of El Naranja getting shot, songs insulting him, “artists” decapitating him, and more. Just ugly people doing ugly things, but “let’s go Brandon is cuckish.”

So annoying that these are the people who can’t meme and stroke each other off on Reddit all day.
 
God damn you're fucking dense. Do you get paid to troll on here all day, or do you do it for free?
I'm not going to assume you know, but that terrible phrase came from your side. Even Biden.gov agreed with it.
Please, you've been wasting your life in this forum for at least as long as I have.

And what exactly is "my side"? I voted for Jo, not Joe.
 
I can’t understand a point you’re making if it’s a run-on sentence that makes no sense.

There’s lots of pictures and evidence of people defending businesses with guns last year, and again, it wasn’t defending against white people with tiki torches:
That's all good and fine, but the non business owning minorities buying guns aren't going full Rittenhouse, and I'm willing to bet that's thats the majority of them.

I have yet to see any of the tiki torch holders be elected to office, do you have a source on that?
It's been noted and prevalent in the last 5 years at every level, from school boards and local offices to Jewish space Lazer lady from Georgia.

You are pretty great at finding info that backs your viewpoint, try reading some the challenges it for once.
Forcing people to do something that has no scientific basis is unacceptable,
Agree.

and calling out government for doing it is not “being fucking babies,” it’s following the science. I thought that’s what we were supposed to be doing…?
It is. But again, this whole convo was sparked by businesses making their own rules (read: not the evil gubermint), so either quit being a baby or quit frequenting those places. It's pretty straightforward.

Government oppression to prevent a case of the omicron sniffles is insane. The people responsible for literally lying to the American people should be held accountable, and I hope they are soon.
I think we both know the government never holds themselves accountable for anything.
That sounds like an inconvenient way to dismiss the failures of a political ideology,
By agreeing with you that they suck and have lost sight of what they are supposed to be? Okay cool I guess?

kind of like the “what people call communist totally isn’t communist,
This is true. Yes, for the most part.

real communism hasn’t ever been tried so we don’t know it doesn’t work” argument.
Anyone down with the tankie shit is dumb. Full stop.

Again, another conservative failing to recognize there's a whole spectrum of left between the mostly right wing democratic party of the US and authoritarian communism. I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.
 
I don’t think they comprehend the origins and/or the point of the fake news creating that phrase, at all.
I observe the same conservative turds I've always seen use the phrase. If the "fake news" created it, fine, it ain't the fake news that is using it on a daily basis/wearing it on airplanes.
4 years of “fuck Trump”, music videos of El Naranja getting shot, songs insulting him, “artists” decapitating him, and more. Just ugly people doing ugly things, but “let’s go Brandon is cuckish.”
Can't be both, eh?
So annoying that these are the people who can’t meme and stroke each other off on Reddit all day.
What reddit forums have you been frequenting?
I like how you think "meming" is some kind of accomplishment to take pride in.
Memes are often funny, but almost always simple minded.
 
I observe the same conservative turds I've always seen use the phrase. If the "fake news" created it, fine, it ain't the fake news that is using it on a daily basis/wearing it on airplanes.

Can't be both, eh?

What reddit forums have you been frequenting?
I like how you think "meming" is some kind of accomplishment to take pride in.
Memes are often funny, but almost always simple minded.
Memes are for the ones with a sense of humor. No, I don’t take pride, it’s just funny. Most of the left tends to get offended at everything and have little sense of humor or tolerance altogether.
 
Memes are for the ones with a sense of humor. No, I don’t take pride, it’s just funny. Most of the left tends to get offended at everything and have little sense of humor or tolerance altogether.
I used to see memes as a lot more humorous, but then I realized how many people were actually relying on memes to guide their thinking. Nowadays it just depends on the meme and who's posting it.

Somebody recently shared a JP Sears video. I found the guy hilarious pre-pandemic (tackling veganism and the likes), but now his satire expresses actual viewpoints that I disagree with.

I still find a lot of humor in the world, but it has definately shifted in light of the pandemic. Hoping it'll shift back post pandemic.
 
I used to see memes as a lot more humorous, but then I realized how many people were actually relying on memes to guide their thinking. Nowadays it just depends on the meme and who's posting it.

Ain't that the truth. Love me some dark/blue/gallows humor but damn sometimes I'm left thinking "ya but the dude who posted this probably actually thinks that way", and that's not funny.

Kind of a bummer.
 
Yes, you. I've already shared articles with studies, your article shared hyperbole.

Outdated studies, that you yourself admitted. ThE sCiEnCe ChAnGeS, remember?

Your post history is readily available for you to scroll through.

“You totally said it, go find it yourself though because it won’t for you” ?

From August:

To which you replied:
"Did you even read those articles? No, it doesn’t. That’s the point."

Your general sentiment on precautions being authoritarian and oppressive long predates that.

That post did not feature me saying cloth masks aren’t scientifically effective by a long shot. It was discussing Fauci’s lies, as featured in that article. Try again.

Also, please just stop with the fallacies, you've already shown upthread that you only care selectively anyways. For instance when I suggested you call out Uglytacos strawman and you deferred to democratic goalpost moving instead. It's seriously like a broken record.

No fallacies here except your buying that straw in bulk and making claims that you can’t back up with fact, bub.

To be fair though, looking over what everyone was saying a year ago, we all sound like broken records.

Only some of us.

That's all good and fine, but the non business owning minorities buying guns aren't going full Rittenhouse, and I'm willing to bet that's thats the majority of them.

You’re still dismissing major events last year where people bought and used guns to defend against something that had nothing to do with the right wing. Again, I really don’t care the reason, it’s a good thing.

It's been noted and prevalent in the last 5 years at every level, from school boards and local offices to Jewish space Lazer lady from Georgia.

You are pretty great at finding info that backs your viewpoint, try reading some the challenges it for once.

So both you and the new guy are masters about making claims that you have no evidence for. Looks like you found a buddy.

It is. But again, this whole convo was sparked by businesses making their own rules (read: not the evil gubermint), so either quit being a baby or quit frequenting those places. It's pretty straightforward.

Uh, no? I believe this started when the island of Oahu required restaurants that offer sit-in dining to check vaccine cards to seat customers. That’s not a business choice, that’s a government mandate.



I think we both know the government never holds themselves accountable for anything.

True.
By agreeing with you that they suck and have lost sight of what they are supposed to be? Okay cool I guess?

Anyone down with the tankie shit is dumb. Full stop.

Again, another conservative failing to recognize there's a whole spectrum of left between the mostly right wing democratic party of the US and authoritarian communism. I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

It just sounds like your argument is “Biden is not my specific flavor of leftism, therefore anything he does cannot be used to judge whether we continue to try a policy or stance that’s slightly different from what he did,” is it not? That’s the same silly tankie communist argument I just pointed out, and it’s the same argument used on the right by people who try to say “well, Trump isn’t reflective of what real republicans are,” and it’s just as wrong.
 
You’re still dismissing major events last year where people bought and used guns to defend against something that had nothing to do with the right wing. Again, I really don’t care the reason, it’s a good thing.
I'm not dismissing that at all. I'm just saying that's not the basis of your original article by my reading. It wasn't minorities buying guns to defend businesses from looters, it was minorities buying guns because they are scared or racial crime.

Can the two be the same thing sometimes? Sure, absolutely. In the framing of the article you posted? No not so much.
So both you and the new guy are masters about making claims that you have no evidence for. Looks like you found a buddy.
I've seen and read countless articles in the past year or more on the subject. I'm just saying find them yourself, oh king of straw. I'm not wasting my time going and finding info for you to ignore. If you truly had any intent on your viewpoint wavering you'd look yourself, but you are just here to own some libz amiright?

Uh, no? I believe this started when the island of Oahu required restaurants that offer sit-in dining to check vaccine cards to seat customers. That’s not a business choice, that’s a government mandate.

No no, WE were all talking private business, YOU brought in Hawaii. To which I'd agree gov mask mandates and vacc mandates are dumb at this point, but MUH STATES RIGHTS So I'm still in the quit being a fucking baby or don't go there camp. Get over it bruh.
It just sounds like your argument is “Biden is not my specific flavor of leftism,
The Democratic party flavor of "leftism" is like the LaCroix flavor of leftism. Barely fucking there and more a suggestion than anything concrete. So yes, in that him and the dem party by and large don't represent my ideals really at all on anything substantial that is true.

therefore anything he does cannot be used to judge whether we continue to try a policy or stance that’s slightly different from what he did,” is it not?
He hasn't really done a single meaningful thing for either of us to make this assertion now has he? You should be jumping for joy at the Biden presidency. He's accomplished nothing, as the Dem elite who run the party have no interest in doing so.

That’s the same silly tankie communist argument I just pointed out
and it’s the same argument used on the right by people who try to say “well, Trump isn’t reflective of what real republicans are,” and it’s just as wrong.
No it's not the same silly argument as there's a whole plethora of ideologies in between the US version of "left" and authoritarian communism. Real world examples being most of the developed world that's not here.... Further left than that theres Kurdistan with it's fledgling little anarcholeftist ideals experiment, and there's more in the past that got smashed by either the west or authoritarian communism depending on which example you choose. Hell Israel early on was pretty far left with a lot of it's social vales, though that's changed quite a bit over the years.

And I'd say Trump is reflective of republican values and what they are. He won thier primary, and they overwhelmingly voted to keep him in office. I don't know how that's the same as me saying my values are different than Democratic party values, unless your assertion is its a binary choice, period and I'm not allowed free thought outside the major party lines.
 
I'm not dismissing that at all. I'm just saying that's not the basis of your original article by my reading. It wasn't minorities buying guns to defend businesses from looters, it was minorities buying guns because they are scared or racial crime.

Can the two be the same thing sometimes? Sure, absolutely. In the framing of the article you posted? No not so much.

I understand that, and I’m saying, with evidence, that the first article doesn’t showcase an exclusive reason that more people of different political ideologies/race/gender are buying guns.

I've seen and read countless articles in the past year or more on the subject. I'm just saying find them yourself, oh king of straw. I'm not wasting my time going and finding info for you to ignore. If you truly had any intent on your viewpoint wavering you'd look yourself, but you are just here to own some libz amiright?

There’s a fallacy based on someone making a claim, and when an opposing voice asks for proof of that claim, the original claimant tells the opposing voice to find proof of that claim themselves. I just can’t think of the name. In any case, I expected better of you.

No no, WE were all talking private business, YOU brought in Hawaii.

And multiple people engaged me in the discussion of it…?

To which I'd agree gov mask mandates and vacc mandates are dumb at this point, but MUH STATES RIGHTS So I'm still in the quit being a fucking baby or don't go there camp. Get over it bruh.
The concept of “states rights,” at least in the conservative parody you’re making right now, is based on states freeing themselves from the tyranny of a federal government that oppresses people and forces them to do something they don’t want to do. That really doesn’t apply here, since it’s a state being stricter than the federal government. It’s not typically the right calling for states to oppress them harder, it’s apparently the left.

The Democratic party flavor of "leftism" is like the LaCroix flavor of leftism. Barely fucking there and more a suggestion than anything concrete. So yes, in that him and the dem party by and large don't represent my ideals really at all on anything substantial that is true.

I’m glad you have the conviction not to vote for them since you didn’t vote for Biden, but too many others have the “vote blue no matter who” argument, and that needs to stop if changes need to be made.

He hasn't really done a single meaningful thing for either of us to make this assertion now has he? You should be jumping for joy at the Biden presidency. He's accomplished nothing, as the Dem elite who run the party have no interest in doing so.

You’re kidding. His border policies, his Covid policies, his Ukraine policies…? His decisions are giving him a lower approval rating than trump at the same points in their presidencies, according to some polls. Many Democrats running this fall are going to try to distance themselves from him, saying stuff like they’re not Democrats “like him,” as he’s so unpopular.

No it's not the same silly argument as there's a whole plethora of ideologies in between the US version of "left" and authoritarian communism. Real world examples being most of the developed world that's not here.... Further left than that theres Kurdistan with it's fledgling little anarcholeftist ideals experiment, and there's more in the past that got smashed by either the west or authoritarian communism depending on which example you choose. Hell Israel early on was pretty far left with a lot of it's social vales, though that's changed quite a bit over the years.

I think you’d find the policies pushed by all to be overall very similar, just slightly different flavors. There’s a reason why political alignment charts have four corners, and not 64.

And I'd say Trump is reflective of republican values and what they are. He won thier primary, and they overwhelmingly voted to keep him in office. I don't know how that's the same as me saying my values are different than Democratic party values, unless your assertion is its a binary choice, period and I'm not allowed free thought outside the major party lines.
Sigh.
 
“Don’t contribute to starting a war”?

Hearing Democrats rush to Biden’s defense for pulling out of Afghanistan because “it was the right thing to do, we never should have been there” and then turning around and supporting his hawkish attitude towards Russia would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
 
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