Maxing TSP

I know it’s situation dependent, but what is the pro of doing a split like this (or any split) between traditional and Roth?
Lots of things have income limits. ROTH IRA is the first thing that comes to mind. If you're right at the margin of being able to contribute, deferring some income can bring it down enough to be under limits.
 
Lots of things have income limits. ROTH IRA is the first thing that comes to mind. If you're right at the margin of being able to contribute, deferring some income can bring it down enough to be under limits.
Is a ROTH IRA better than a ROTH TSP in some way? There's no income limit for the ROTH TSP
 
Ability to choose where it’s invested instead of the funds.
Basically this. And that you can max both your work tsp and a Roth IRA. The way I see it is I can almost max my traditional tsp and my Roth IRA with the same amount of money as maxing a Roth tsp. Yes I’ll pay taxes down the road but I feel like more money in the market longer will pay off. There’s lots of YouTube videos explaining this. Most come out close to a wash in the long run
 
Funny to see a lot of us who bicker like morons in the shoot the shit thread getting along and agreeing over here. See guys it’s possible to have respectful dialogue on the internet!
 
Does anyone have an average or estimate of what the social security supplement will be?
Social Security supplement starts when you retire; stops when you become eligible for regular Soc Security (age 62) whether or not you start Social Security then. Calculation: (yrs service)/40 x (age 62 Soc Sec estimate)
 
Funny to see a lot of us who bicker like morons in the shoot the shit thread getting along and agreeing over here. See guys it’s possible to have respectful dialogue on the internet!
R-tards have to stick together
 
Once you’ve had no car payments and no house payment, it is tough to go back.

We upgraded our house and held the mortgage for about 1/2 a year before we said nah. It Didn’t help the mortgage broker pissed off my wife and out of spite decided to kill his commission with an early payoff.

True investing would beat it with some risk but man it is a great feeling.
I hear you, the peace of mind would be great.

And lots of people say to themselves they will invest the rest and simply end up spending it all on toys or their lifestyle

I just have auto deposits to my investment accounts so it's out of my hands. In my situation I really don't care if I ever even pay my house off. I figure I can sell my house when I retire, pay off the mortgage and I'll come out on top to the tune of a few hundred grand most likely....
 
- Live within your means. This is the single most important thing you can do for long term financial prosperity!
- Max your TSP as quickly as you can. The TSP is very beneficial because of its low fees. Fewer options to choose from, but lower fees hopefully equals higher returns long term. You choose how to split it between traditional and Roth ($20,500 total). I personally do $500 traditional and $289 Roth. My split in 2022 will be $13,000 to traditional and $7,500 to Roth.
- Contribute to another Roth IRA ($6,000 total) either because you make less money or backdoor into a Roth.
- Put additional money into other investments (brokerage account, real estate investments, et cetera).
- Besides your rainy day fund (6 months or whatever you desire), enjoy the rest and live life.
 
Social Security supplement starts when you retire; stops when you become eligible for regular Soc Security (age 62) whether or not you start Social Security then. Calculation: (yrs service)/40 x (age 62 Soc Sec estimate)
Question: Is your SS Age 62 estimate based on you continuing to work until 62?? In other words, if you retire at say 50, your age 62 estimate is likely going to be too high on the SSN website? Therefore, your Social Security Supplment will actually be considerably less than those calculations? Can someone actually give an example of what their supplement is relative to their final salary? Doesn't have to be specific, but I'm guessing something in the $1000 to $1500 range per month for most retirees?
 
Question: Is your SS Age 62 estimate based on you continuing to work until 62?? In other words, if you retire at say 50, your age 62 estimate is likely going to be too high on the SSN website? Therefore, your Social Security Supplment will actually be considerably less than those calculations? Can someone actually give an example of what their supplement is relative to their final salary? Doesn't have to be specific, but I'm guessing something in the $1000 to $1500 range per month for most retirees?
I’m pretty sure you can request it right now. It’ll tell you what you’d receive. Takes like a month though
 
Question: Is your SS Age 62 estimate based on you continuing to work until 62?? In other words, if you retire at say 50, your age 62 estimate is likely going to be too high on the SSN website? Therefore, your Social Security Supplment will actually be considerably less than those calculations? Can someone actually give an example of what their supplement is relative to their final salary? Doesn't have to be specific, but I'm guessing something in the $1000 to $1500 range per month for most retirees?
I believe you end up putting a lot of zero’s in for years worked into the calculation.

$1500 a month sounds like what I hear most of the time. I was suppose to go to one of those retirement things but…..

Here’s what I found-


To get a rough estimate:

  • Take your estimated Social Security benefit at age 62. If you don’t have an estimate (SSA no longer sends them to everyone automatically every year), you may get one by enrolling at www.ssa.gov/myaccount or calling (800) 772-1213.
  • Divide the Social Security benefit estimate by 40 and multiply the result by the number of years you’ve been employed under FERS, rounded to the nearest full year. For example, if your estimated annual Social Security benefit at age 62 is $20,000 and you have 20 years of FERS service then your SRS will be $10,000 ($20,000/40 x 20).
This estimate probably will be a little low. The closer you are to retirement when you do the calculation, the more dependable it will be.


Seems to work out somewhat. My estimate at 62 is 2414, I’ll have 26 years FERS when I retire, which comes out to about $1570. For reference from 2003 on I have hit the max I could pay to social security, I was a late 2002 hire.
 
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Question: Is your SS Age 62 estimate based on you continuing to work until 62?? In other words, if you retire at say 50, your age 62 estimate is likely going to be too high on the SSN website? Therefore, your Social Security Supplment will actually be considerably less than those calculations? Can someone actually give an example of what their supplement is relative to their final salary? Doesn't have to be specific, but I'm guessing something in the $1000 to $1500 range per month for most retirees?
I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but (IIRC) you earn four Social Security "credits" each year you have at least a given amount of income. Your Social Security benefit is based on the highest 40 credits you've earned over your lifetime—essentially a "high 10" calculation similar to FERS' "high 3." There's no projection-until-age-62, it's solely based on the credits you've already earned.
 
Question, if I set my allocation to 100% into the TSP at the beginning of the year, will my checks just go to my bank account after I’ve maxed out or do I need to pay close attention to when I max so my paychecks don’t disappear
 
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