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New rest rules

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  1. penaltyvectors #21
    hpwjuicebox said:

    What do you mean 12 hours after a mid? That was functionally already a rule sine you cant have 2 shifts in one day. This almost sounds like they are opening up the possibility of working a mid then rolling back in for a swing that same day

    I just quoted from the email. Supposedly that rule is already in place and remains unchanged, but yes it does seem like they're opening the possibility of a day 1 mid with reverse rattler.

  2. 32andBelow #22
    penaltyvectors said:

    I just quoted from the email. Supposedly that rule is already in place and remains unchanged, but yes it does seem like they're opening the possibility of a day 1 mid with reverse rattler.

    You always had the ability to do reverse rattler. This tried to revive regular rattler

  3. ATC_VOL #23
    hmmmmmmm1233 said:

    I think im the only one who liked the old schedule. I was find with the rattler to have a longer weekend.

    I enjoyed it. I know I’m in the minority, but it really maximized time with family for me.

  4. Phillytroll69 OP #24

    I dont really see this changing anything

  5. ManBearPig #25
    hpwjuicebox said:

    What do you mean 12 hours after a mid? That was functionally already a rule sine you cant have 2 shifts in one day. This almost sounds like they are opening up the possibility of working a mid then rolling back in for a swing that same day

    I think they are just keeping people from having back to back mids 10hrs apart.

  6. Cat1 #26

    Has the email even come out yet

  7. Nothanks #27
    Phillytroll69 said:

    I dont really see this changing anything

    Changed your mind about what was happening pretty quick. Good guess

  8. BCHOOSIER #28
    ATC_VOL said:

    I enjoyed it. I know I’m in the minority, but it really maximized time with family for me.

    I never really understood this logic. I would get off the MID and sleep until noon get up eat and shower by 1pm. Or I would go into work on my 5th day in the morning and get off at 1pm. I didn't gain much but lost my 4 day worked evening with my family and overall sleep.

  9. ATC_VOL #29
    Cat1 said:

    Has the email even come

    BCHOOSIER said:

    I never really understood this logic. I would get off the MID and sleep until noon get up eat and shower by 1pm. Or I would go into work on my 5th day in the morning and get off at 1pm. I didn't gain much but lost my 4 day worked evening with my family and overall sleep.

    My routine was sleep right when I got home. Got up and had plenty of time to help with homework, eat dinner with everyone, watch a show, etc. Then I usually stayed up the next morning to do things with the family. Maybe took a nap mid afternoon for a couple of hours if I was home, but we were often out doing something.

    Like I said previously, worked great for me. But I realize most people probably try to sleep a lot later than I did.

  10. Phillytroll69 OP #30
    Nothanks said:

    Changed your mind about what was happening pretty quick. Good guess

    I gave some options! One was bo change

  11. 32andBelow #31
    BCHOOSIER said:

    I never really understood this logic. I would get off the MID and sleep until noon get up eat and shower by 1pm. Or I would go into work on my 5th day in the morning and get off at 1pm. I didn't gain much but lost my 4 day worked evening with my family and overall sleep.

    Something about waking up in your bed makes it feel better. But I am so much better rested not doing that. If I had to do rattler I’d prefer OG rattler than any of these fake versions.

  12. Soul_Controller #32

    Have to force yourself up at like 10 after your last mid or you lose the benefit. As long as no one bothers you on your day-mid and you are disciplined enough to not oversleep after a mid, then the rattler is fine. The whole off limits day-mid thing is hard if you have a family though, so i understand that the rattler can be hard. The rest of you fucks just need to learn to put the controller and the phone down and go to bed.

  13. BCHOOSIER #33
    Soul_Controller said:

    Have to force yourself up at like 10 after your last mid or you lose the benefit. As long as no one bothers you on your day-mid and you are disciplined enough to not oversleep after a mid, then the rattler is fine. The whole off limits day-mid thing is hard if you have a family though, so i understand that the rattler can be hard. The rest of you fucks just need to learn to put the controller and the phone down and go to bed.

    Up by 10am? I take it you dont work much traffic on the MID and get a good amount of rest at work then. That's about 2 hours of sleep for me coming off the MID. You're right if I give up my Tuesday night with my family and my Thursday night with my family to just work and sleep. Then only sleep two hours coming off the MID, I could be up at 10am in the middle of week "benefiting" from that schedule when the rest of my family is at work and school. If your facility doesn't have much traffic on the MID or you have to work it to get better RDOs I get it. Been there done that, (and will probably have to do it again now). But you'll never convince me I get "more of a weekend" or Im better rested working that schedule.

  14. GMX #34

    We've been doing 10 hour mids. Some people work a line with 4 10s with mids, the rest work 5 8s without mids. 2 people on the 4 10s have to work 3 mids and a day, the others work 2 mids and 2 days. The mids are the start of the week instead of the end. I'm on a 3 mid line and it kind of sucks to start on mids and I'm more tired than on the normal Rattler but I don't have to work with a supe and I get a long fatigue break. If there's leave or OT I usually roll into a 4th and/or 5th mid. At this point I'd like to just stay on my 3/1 or do all mids if I could.

  15. 32andBelow #35
    GMX said:

    We've been doing 10 hour mids. Some people work a line with 4 10s with mids, the rest work 5 8s without mids. 2 people on the 4 10s have to work 3 mids and a day, the others work 2 mids and 2 days. The mids are the start of the week instead of the end. I'm on a 3 mid line and it kind of sucks to start on mids and I'm more tired than on the normal Rattler but I don't have to work with a supe and I get a long fatigue break. If there's leave or OT I usually roll into a 4th and/or 5th mid. At this point I'd like to just stay on my 3/1 or do all mids if I could.

    We’ve been doing the split 4 10s with 2 afternoons “day off” and 2 mids. It works ok. The rest are ons straight days or afternoons.

  16. AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise #36
    32andBelow said:

    We’ve been doing the split 4 10s with 2 afternoons “day off” and 2 mids. It works ok. The rest are ons straight days or afternoons.

    Out of curiosity, what is your shift number and how many sectors are normally open on a busy day in your area?

  17. 32andBelow #37
    AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise said:

    Out of curiosity, what is your shift number and how many sectors are normally open on a busy day in your area?

    I think 7/6/3 we never go below 2 even on mid and we split to as many as 4 with 1/2 d sided at peak. Since the 10 hour people come in at noon there’s quite a bit of overlap for the middle 3 hours

  18. Nothanks #38
    32andBelow said:

    I think 7/6/3 we never go below 2 even on mid and we split to as many as 4 with 1/2 d sided at peak. Since the 10 hour people come in at noon there’s quite a bit of overlap for the middle 3 hours

    You have 4 r side positions in your area total?

  19. Jellismate #39
    AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise said:

    Out of curiosity, what is your shift number and how many sectors are normally open on a busy day in your area?

    I know you didn't ask me, but we also do the swingx2-off-midx2 lines.

    Our numbers are 12/11/2 and we staff 6-7 Rs and 2-3 Ds during our busiest times.

  20. 32andBelow #40
    Nothanks said:

    You have 4 r side positions in your area total?

    Basically yah. There’s technically 5 but one never splits

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