Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

Allen1138 said:
I was under the impression that ATC was a public trust position?
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The position is Moderate Risk Public Trust but the FAA uses the SF-86 because of Reasons. You don't actually get anything on your record except a Tier 2 Background Investigation adjudication result. Or so MJ said in another thread.
 
Allen1138 said:
I’m in the same boat. 90% combined, 50% for cognitive disfunction diagnosed as anxiety (in lieu of PTSD because I work armed security now)

Gonna be super bummed if that’s a disqualifier. I don’t take any meds or receive any treatment for it, so hopefully they’ll understand that it’s just a normal thing for combat vets. Fingers crossed.
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Good luck to you! I am hoping the medical process is a more of a personal process, rather than someone solely looking at paperwork and determining whether or not you are eligible off of that.
 
Southeast CIL here, I was supposed to take the MMPI this morning, but my POC emailed me and said don't bother because the site is down 🙁 I did receive the email to schedule my medical exam. Got it set for the 26th of February. And for those veterans with disabilities, I just took a screenshot of the breakdown of my disability on the ebenefits website and sent it in as a pdf. That's all I could find on there.

In other news, Mitch McConnell did state this afternoon that the POTUS would sign the bill to keep the government open, but it still needs to be voted on in Congress before it gets to the POTUS. Fingers crossed no one here gets delayed and we all end up on the same class date. Good luck to all.

Edit: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi scheduled a news conference at 9:30 p.m. ET following the final vote.
 
Quick question regarding the security process. The part where it asks about debt. Is it just my personal debt under my name or would my wife’s count as well?
 
Allen1138 said:
So my security email says SF-86 for national security positions. I was under the impression that ATC was a public trust position? Not that it really matters I guess. I already have a public trust through DHS and was hoping that would just transfer over to DOT.
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denver0739 said:
Quick question regarding the security process. The part where it asks about debt. Is it just my personal debt under my name or would my wife’s count as well?
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tunwno said:
Would also like to know the answer to that
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Sounds like a question that is frequently asked. ?
 
Sadly I was unable to locate a straight answer from the FAQ’s on here. I’ve probably over looked them a few thousand times in all the times I’ve read and re-read the different aspects of the FAQ list.

That being said, google search did come in handy and it leans towards no. But it also was apparent that every situation was different and you should balance out “leaving info off” and therefore screwing yourself out of an opportunity with “not my responsibility so I didn’t see a need to report it” and the invistigator understanding it as such.

Personally, I’m going with not listing it.

But I’m sure if I’m wrong about this, somebody will be quick to correct me.
 
denver0739 said:
Sadly I was unable to locate a straight answer from the FAQ’s on here. I’ve probably over looked them a few thousand times in all the times I’ve read and re-read the different aspects of the FAQ list.

That being said, google search did come in handy and it leans towards no. But it also was apparent that every situation was different and you should balance out “leaving info off” and therefore screwing yourself out of an opportunity with “not my responsibility so I didn’t see a need to report it” and the invistigator understanding it as such.

Personally, I’m going with not listing it.

But I’m sure if I’m wrong about this, somebody will be quick to correct me.
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Honestly, I would lean the exact opposite way. Sure, it would really suck to have the job offer rescinded because you weren't eligible for a security clearance. But far, far worse I think would be to have the conditional clearance granted, make it to your first facility, move you and your family halfway across the country, and then get fired on the spot because they discovered you omitted information and they decided not to grant you a clearance after all. They're gonna find it no matter what, so if it's an issue, it'll be an issue regardless of whether you list it on the form or not.

From everything I read when I was filling mine out, it seemed like over-reporting was better than under-reporting. I saw several people mention the act of concealing information is often far more damning than the information itself. Just the act of attempting to conceal information, regardless of what it is, will count against you when it comes to decide whether you're eligible for a clearance. This isn't official advice, as I'm just another new-hire like everyone else, but I filled mine out with as much detail as I possibly could, and I sleep better at night knowing that 1/5/10 years down the road, I'm not going to be fired for omitting information on my SF-86 to try to save a few weeks on the front end.
 
randoturbo33 said:
Honestly, I would lean the exact opposite way. Sure, it would really suck to have the job offer rescinded because you weren't eligible for a security clearance. But far, far worse I think would be to have the conditional clearance granted, make it to your first facility, move you and your family halfway across the country, and then get fired on the spot because they discovered you omitted information and they decided not to grant you a clearance after all. They're gonna find it no matter what, so if it's an issue, it'll be an issue regardless of whether you list it on the form or not.

From everything I read when I was filling mine out, it seemed like over-reporting was better than under-reporting. I saw several people mention the act of concealing information is often far more damning than the information itself. Just the act of attempting to conceal information, regardless of what it is, will count against you when it comes to decide whether you're eligible for a clearance. This isn't official advice, as I'm just another new-hire like everyone else, but I filled mine out with as much detail as I possibly could, and I sleep better at night knowing that 1/5/10 years down the road, I'm not going to be fired for omitting information on my SF-86 to try to save a few weeks on the front end.
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Preach... don’t leave anything off your security paperwork. I’m a squadron security monitor at my Guard unit and when individuals leave things out, we’ve seen it come back to bite them, even in just Trust positions. I’ve also seen regular civilians fail a background check and not know it until they showed up the first day, all because of reasons such as an unpaid speeding ticket, failure to mention foreign contacts (contractor friends), and failure to report debt.

When in doubt, report it.
 
Got everything scheduled for dates within this month, and sent off my fingerprint cards today. Hopefully everything goes smoothly. GL everyone, hope no one hits any bumps on the way; including myself.
 
Anyone get this message?

“The FAA Network is currently experiencing connectivity issues. You may be unable to access your e-QIP application at the time this message was sent. You will receive a separate email from OPM containing your e-QIP registration code as soon as the network issues are resolved. Once you receive your registration code, you will be able to access e-QIP.”
 
craighow said:
On the Pre Employment interview and instructions worksheet it asks you to list all medical conditions. Do I really have to list every time I was injured and received medical care such as a broken arm or is it only serious conditions?
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did you ever get a response to this?
 

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