Airservices Australia Recruiting Initiative

Nothanks said:

No wonder you are always on here. Spend more time on break than plugged in

You respond to everything I write so you must be in the same boat.

And no we don’t anymore because they make us open fake sectors at 6am

I've gotten more TOP for FD than my supe has in the agency.

32andBelow said:

You respond to everything I write so you must be in the same boat.

And no we don’t anymore because they make us open fake sectors at 6am

That's such fucking horseshit. No one's car has more than 1 spare tire, im just saying.

In our BWS negotiations we were simultaneously told the Union schedule had too many people in the facility, which wasn't "productive", but couldn't have "as many 4/10s" because there werent enough people in the facility. Same fucking schedule.

ManBearPig said:

That's such fucking horseshit. No one's car has more than 1 spare tire, im just saying.

In our BWS negotiations we were simultaneously told the Union schedule had too many people in the facility, which wasn't "productive", but couldn't have "as many 4/10s" because there werent enough people in the facility. Same fucking schedule.

The agency's opposed to 4/10s at all costs so their arguments are all ad hoc bullshit. They are working backwards from their conclusion. I'm surprised they let you keep any at all.

We kept all our 410s but they tried some bs. We flat out said no to the fake rattler from day one

32andBelow said:

You respond to everything I write so you must be in the same boat.

And no we don’t anymore because they make us open fake sectors at 6am

I just tell them if we have too many people on break then approve spot leave.

Cue blank stares

AB19 said:

Everyone is much more attractive, so nice having everything in walking distance, haven't actually started work yet just been a bum for like a month before I start, just under two weeks till I start

How has it been now that you've been there for a month or so. Im pending the June conversion class.

CK said:

How has it been now that you've been there for a month or so. Im pending the June conversion class.

Finishing up in Melbourne this week before heading back to Sydney on Saturday. The TCU guys give a lot of respect because they know where you came from is probably busier than where you're headed. The course itself was pretty simple and straight forward. Phraseology isn't too rough, first time using closed STARS was interesting. TCU and enroute both have the same system, you have to keep up with making the data blocks accurate which I didn't find difficult to do. Me and the other guy both passed easily. I know the enroute people had some difficulties. 4/7 Americans that took their first eval failed and retested this week. Not sure if they passed or not

AB19 said:

Finishing up in Melbourne this week before heading back to Sydney on Saturday. The TCU guys give a lot of respect because they know where you came from is probably busier than where you're headed. The course itself was pretty simple and straight forward. Phraseology isn't too rough, first time using closed STARS was interesting. TCU and enroute both have the same system, you have to keep up with making the data blocks accurate which I didn't find difficult to do. Me and the other guy both passed easily. I know the enroute people had some difficulties. 4/7 Americans that took their first eval failed and retested this week. Not sure if they passed or not

Congrats on finishing up initial training! How’s the transition been moving over there outside of ATC? Any “surprises” or things you didn’t think about before getting over there? Were you able to find a decent place in Sydney to rent easily? The opportunity seems amazing…any downsides that you’ve encountered thus far?

What’s the differences between FAA’s STARS and “closed” STARS?

JimStansel said:

Congrats on finishing up initial training! How’s the transition been moving over there outside of ATC? Any “surprises” or things you didn’t think about before getting over there? Were you able to find a decent place in Sydney to rent easily? The opportunity seems amazing…any downsides that you’ve encountered thus far?

What’s the differences between FAA’s STARS and “closed” STARS?

Well the STARS at C90 just ended in downwinds compared to them like just landing on the runway for the ones here. Sydney is expensive for rent, I'm paying the equivalent of like 2400 USD for a one bedroom, so my rent is 840aud a week, but my paychecks are 5kaud after tax, so I'm not worried about it. Absolutely love how walkable it is here. You can tell the food is just way higher quality, people are super friendly and I wish I could have made the move earlier

The biggest thing I saw from Americans was not knowing how prolific speed and cellphone cameras are. You will get fined and eventually lose your license here, they take it serious

AB19 said:

The biggest thing I saw from Americans was not knowing how prolific speed and cellphone cameras are. You will get fined and eventually lose your license here, they take it serious

You can get a ticket for having your arm out the window.... It's crazy. They are super strict on traffic laws.
Sydney is crazy walkable, but the public transportation is also fantastic. Cheap, easy, clean, punctual. Heard Melbourne is even better for public transportation.

AB19 said:

Well the STARS at C90 just ended in downwinds compared to them like just landing on the runway for the ones here. Sydney is expensive for rent, I'm paying the equivalent of like 2400 USD for a one bedroom, so my rent is 840aud a week, but my paychecks are 5kaud after tax, so I'm not worried about it. Absolutely love how walkable it is here. You can tell the food is just way higher quality, people are super friendly and I wish I could have made the move earlier

Gotcha…hadn’t heard that term before. I initially thought you were talking about a different STARS program/display. I imagine once you get the aircraft from the Center, do you just assign a runway transition off the STAR?

Were you given a choice of facilities during the hiring process? Or just offered Sydney due to your C90 background?

How are the facilities themselves? Full of mold, broken elevators, and pest problems like they are here?

Anyone apply for Tower over there with only tower CPC experience?

AB19 said:

Finishing up in Melbourne this week before heading back to Sydney on Saturday. The TCU guys give a lot of respect because they know where you came from is probably busier than where you're headed. The course itself was pretty simple and straight forward. Phraseology isn't too rough, first time using closed STARS was interesting. TCU and enroute both have the same system, you have to keep up with making the data blocks accurate which I didn't find difficult to do. Me and the other guy both passed easily. I know the enroute people had some difficulties. 4/7 Americans that took their first eval failed and retested this week. Not sure if they passed or not

Awesome. I’m a tower guy and slated for Sydney tower. Slightly busier than where I am, but more than one runway.

Homsar said:

Anyone apply for Tower over there with only tower CPC experience?

Me. I’m going Sydney tower. 3 FAA CTOs.

rugbydog11 said:

You can get a ticket for having your arm out the window.... It's crazy. They are super strict on traffic laws.
Sydney is crazy walkable, but the public transportation is also fantastic. Cheap, easy, clean, punctual. Heard Melbourne is even better for public transportation.

Melbourne in the CBD(downtown) is super nice for public transportation, but I found Sydney a lot better in the outer suburbs

CK said:

Awesome. I’m a tower guy and slated for Sydney tower. Slightly busier than where I am, but more than one runway.

You'll have plenty of spacing coming your way

JimStansel said:

Gotcha…hadn’t heard that term before. I initially thought you were talking about a different STARS program/display. I imagine once you get the aircraft from the Center, do you just assign a runway transition off the STAR?

Were you given a choice of facilities during the hiring process? Or just offered Sydney due to your C90 background?

How are the facilities themselves? Full of mold, broken elevators, and pest problems like they are here?

They do have a different display system as well, I imagine it's closer to what enroute is like, but I don't have any center experience to compare.

I was only offered Sydney but I think that's because I applied later, the other guy from C90 was also offered Melbourne.

The facilities in Melbourne are amazing. The tracon and center are in one facility and share the floor. Sydneys TCU is definitely older, but they've been wanting to move it for decades and they've been very reluctant

AB19 said:

Sydneys TCU is definitely older, but they've been wanting to move it for decades and they've been very reluctant

I hear they're soliciting volunteers for the eventual move to philly.

I tried to think of a legit question/comment so it wasn't a complete shitpost, but nothing's coming to mind.

MJ said:

I hear they're soliciting volunteers for the eventual move to philly.

I tried to think of a legit question/comment so it wasn't a complete shitpost, but nothing's coming to mind.

They unironically have been trying to move the Sydney tracon to Melbourne, but none of the controllers there want to move. Since I've applied it's been, oh btw in three years you're moving to Melbourne to they're moving it to the shitty part of Sydney to now apparently north Sydney but who actually knows

AB19 said:

They unironically have been trying to move the Sydney tracon to Melbourne, but none of the controllers there want to move. Since I've applied it's been, oh btw in three years you're moving to Melbourne to they're moving it to the shitty part of Sydney to now apparently north Sydney but who actually knows

Who do you border? Do you guys border with ZOA? are all the lady controllers hot?

32andBelow said:

Who do you border? Do you guys border with ZOA? are all the lady controllers hot?

I know fuck all about center airspace. Yes

AB19 said:

I know fuck all about center airspace. Yes

Hell yah. Can you guys go to Canada after you become citizens? There’s always a couple Australians when we call Canadian centers