ATO/FAA isn't that worried about controller staffing

[BurtMacklin]

Per attached information, there is an ATO hiring freeze instituted for sources external to the ATO in FY25, including previously certified controllers who now work for other LOBs. Given recent events it seems like the ATO should be willing to accept personnel actions to gain experienced controllers. Since this guidance is still in effect, is there a past precedent that a controller exclusion may be implemented?

 

[BrocolliRob]

ELI5 PLZ

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

CPCs who quit and hoped to reapply and get a better facility are not being rehired this fiscal year.

 

[GulfCharlie]

There was a Saint Valentines Day Massacre last night at the FAA, job (non veteran, far as I can tell) probationary employees of job series 1361, 4749, 0343, one other series I cannot remember were released from service last night.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

What is a capped or non-capped workforce?

 

[BurtMacklin]

ELI5 PLZ

If an employee works for the FAA in any LOB (line of business) other than the ATO (ARP, AVS, AST, ASH) or in one of the staff offices this guidance does not allow for a hiring manager to select the candidate through a bid or ERR. The impact is a qualified 2152 employed by the FAA (including qualified and experienced previous controllers) not currently in the ATO cannot be hired even though it would help with the staffing shortages. It is interesting ATO management will not allow selection of previously certified controllers that still work for the FAA considering the severe staffing shortage. 2152's returning the the ATO seems like an efficent way to increase staffing.

 

[BrocolliRob]

If an employee works for the FAA in any LOB (line of business) other than the ATO (ARP, AVS, AST, ASH) or in one of the staff offices this guidance does not allow for a hiring manager to select the candidate through a bid or ERR. The impact is a qualified 2152 employed by the FAA (including qualified and experienced previous controllers) not currently in the ATO cannot be hired even though it would help with the staffing shortages. It is interesting ATO management will not allow selection of previously certified controllers that still work for the FAA considering the severe staffing shortage. 2152's returning the the ATO seems like an efficent way to increase staffing.

Thanks. So supervisory, TMU, and support specialist openings will continue it seems?

 

[Dues For Booze]

There was a Saint Valentines Day Massacre last night at the FAA, job (non veteran, far as I can tell) probationary employees of job series 1361, 4749, 0343, one other series I cannot remember were released from service last night.

A 10 month 2152 trainee at FLO was fired last night. One of his coworkers set up a GoFundMe.

 

[eltors0]

A 10 month 2152 trainee at FLO was fired last night. One of his coworkers set up a GoFundMe.

Were they rated on any positions?

 

[BrocolliRob]

Wtf. They are laying off ATCS? That’s insane.

A 10 month 2152 trainee at FLO was fired last night. One of his coworkers set up a GoFundMe.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

If an employee works for the FAA in any LOB (line of business) other than the ATO (ARP, AVS, AST, ASH) or in one of the staff offices this guidance does not allow for a hiring manager to select the candidate through a bid or ERR. The impact is a qualified 2152 employed by the FAA (including qualified and experienced previous controllers) not currently in the ATO cannot be hired even though it would help with the staffing shortages. It is interesting ATO management will not allow selection of previously certified controllers that still work for the FAA considering the severe staffing shortage. 2152's returning the the ATO seems like an efficent way to increase staffing.

Assuming the rolling prior experience bid is under this umbrella? There is still one up on usajobs

 

[CoffeeIV]

Oh no theyre doing exactly what they said they were going to do.

Destroy from within then privatize. That's the plan. Only reason they aren't firing every probationary controller is thanks to DCA. They'll revisit the thought once some time has passed.

 

[Raise when?]

 

[Phanatical]

A 10 month 2152 trainee at FLO was fired last night. One of his coworkers set up a GoFundMe.

I’m gonna need to see that GFM.

 

[Nothanks]

A 10 month 2152 trainee at FLO was fired last night. One of his coworkers set up a GoFundMe.

This is false

 

[SunnyATC]

Was it a TRB situation?

 

[FightingIrish2012]

CPCs who quit and hoped to reapply and get a better facility are not being rehired this fiscal year.

The fix was already in, they were not getting to a “better” facility anyway, thank Andrew LoBodvide.

 

[TommyLaGwadia]

2152's returning the the ATO seems like an efficent way to increase staffing.

Almost like "Fixing staffing" was never a consideration?

The fact they fired Tech Ops last night all but confirms there was never an intention to make things better. Same old story - destroy an organization to privatize it.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

Almost like "Fixing staffing" was never a consideration?

The fact they fired Tech Ops last night all but confirms there was never an intention to make things better. Same old story - destroy an organization to privatize it.

They fired the probationary employees right? Not all of tech ops.

 

[Shikaka]

They fired the probationary employees right? Not all of tech ops.

Nope, all of them shit canned, find your own slew ball.