pointSixtyFive

August 2025

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  1. Nothanks #41
    SquawkHijack said:

    Oh really? Considering he trolls people the EXACT same way in another NCEPT thread? You’re shitty at being a troll lol. He’s got his head too far up Nick Daniels’ ass to reply anyway.

    You’re welcome to answer the same question. What got better about the release policy?

    Please quote me where I said the release policy got better. Idiot

  2. Phillytroll69 #42
    Nothanks said:
    Nothanks said:

    Please quote me where I said the release policy got better. Idiot

    The release policy got better.

    There can be only one troll but I got you fam

  3. Shikaka #43
    Phillytroll69 said:

    There can be only one troll but I got you fam

    This is really the only reason I still come here since I won NCEPT in 2020.

  4. Acquired Taste #44

    Temporary NCEPT SOP modifications for the August 13, 2025 NCEPT panel
    3.2 Facilities will be prioritized based on a collaboratively developed formula (NCEPT Priority List) that considers the following:
    a. Facility Staffing (current and projected, to include the number of trainees)
    b. Facility Level/Type
    c. Core 30 and Underlying TRACONs
    d. Training Success Rate
    e. Training Time in Years
    3.5 Conduct ERR Placement:
    3.5.1. Begin the placement process with the facility of highest need as determined by the NCEPT Priority List and executed by the Priority Placement Tool (PPT) and the 12-month Expected to Target spreadsheet.
    3.5.2. Utilize the facility-prioritized ranking list to identify candidates for potential placement slots.
    3.5.3. Selections will be made from facilities greater than or equal to 80% Current CPC to Target with an Expected to Target greater than or equal to 85% in the 12th month, in accordance with the National Release Policy (NRP).
    3.5.4. The Expected to Target percentages will be recalculated after each selection. Selections stop once a facility drops below 85% Expected to Target.
    3.5.5. Once selected into a facility, a candidate will no longer be considered for a facility of lesser need during the panel.
    3.5.6. Consideration of ERR requests will occur up to 100% Projected to Target for Terminal facilities and the EnRoute National Average +5% for EnRoute facilities. For the August 13, 2025 panel, staffing for EnRoute facilities will occur up to 88.4% (as determined based on data freeze date). All facilities will make one selection at a time with the exception of facilities that qualify under paragraph 3.5.7.
    3.5.7. In the first iteration of Round 1, if a facility is eligible to gain 20 or more based on paragraph 3.5.6, the facility will be eligible to make two selections if available. These facilities will make one selection, if available, at a time during subsequent iterations of Round 1.
    3.5.8. After all ERRs are considered in accordance with 3.5.6, remaining ERRs that meet the release eligibility requirements in the NRP will be considered into FPL 8 and below Tower-only facilities up to 100% +1 Projected to Target if the facility has less than one year training time as indicated in the PPT.
    3.5.9. In the first iteration of Round 1, CPCs that have been facility certified for at least 12 months will only be considered for placement.
    3.5.10. At the conclusion of the panel, the PPT and 12-Month Expected to Target spreadsheet will be updated with each ERR selection.
    3.5.11. Special consideration for L30, D10 and F11:
    -Eligible ERRs into the facilities will be considered prior to beginning Round 1 of the NCEPT panel.

    Rules are essentially the same as last panel from what I can see with special consideration for L30, D10, and F11 added. They're finally giving the big tracons some priority, yet not including SCT or NCT.

  5. Shikaka #45
    Acquired Taste said:

    Temporary NCEPT SOP modifications for the August 13, 2025 NCEPT panel
    3.2 Facilities will be prioritized based on a collaboratively developed formula (NCEPT Priority List) that considers the following:
    a. Facility Staffing (current and projected, to include the number of trainees)
    b. Facility Level/Type
    c. Core 30 and Underlying TRACONs
    d. Training Success Rate
    e. Training Time in Years
    3.5 Conduct ERR Placement:
    3.5.1. Begin the placement process with the facility of highest need as determined by the NCEPT Priority List and executed by the Priority Placement Tool (PPT) and the 12-month Expected to Target spreadsheet.
    3.5.2. Utilize the facility-prioritized ranking list to identify candidates for potential placement slots.
    3.5.3. Selections will be made from facilities greater than or equal to 80% Current CPC to Target with an Expected to Target greater than or equal to 85% in the 12th month, in accordance with the National Release Policy (NRP).
    3.5.4. The Expected to Target percentages will be recalculated after each selection. Selections stop once a facility drops below 85% Expected to Target.
    3.5.5. Once selected into a facility, a candidate will no longer be considered for a facility of lesser need during the panel.
    3.5.6. Consideration of ERR requests will occur up to 100% Projected to Target for Terminal facilities and the EnRoute National Average +5% for EnRoute facilities. For the August 13, 2025 panel, staffing for EnRoute facilities will occur up to 88.4% (as determined based on data freeze date). All facilities will make one selection at a time with the exception of facilities that qualify under paragraph 3.5.7.
    3.5.7. In the first iteration of Round 1, if a facility is eligible to gain 20 or more based on paragraph 3.5.6, the facility will be eligible to make two selections if available. These facilities will make one selection, if available, at a time during subsequent iterations of Round 1.
    3.5.8. After all ERRs are considered in accordance with 3.5.6, remaining ERRs that meet the release eligibility requirements in the NRP will be considered into FPL 8 and below Tower-only facilities up to 100% +1 Projected to Target if the facility has less than one year training time as indicated in the PPT.
    3.5.9. In the first iteration of Round 1, CPCs that have been facility certified for at least 12 months will only be considered for placement.
    3.5.10. At the conclusion of the panel, the PPT and 12-Month Expected to Target spreadsheet will be updated with each ERR selection.
    3.5.11. Special consideration for L30, D10 and F11:
    -Eligible ERRs into the facilities will be considered prior to beginning Round 1 of the NCEPT panel.

    Rules are essentially the same as last panel from what I can see with special consideration for L30, D10, and F11 added. They're finally giving the big tracons some priority, yet not including SCT or NCT.

    Supposed priority bid in the works for NCT, we've had more supes pass through our facility than we've had trainees in the last 4 years

  6. Spoony90 #46

    What exactly does “special consideration” mean?

  7. Shikaka #47
    Spoony90 said:

    What exactly does “special consideration” mean?

    They get first pick.

  8. Spoony90 #48
    Shikaka said:

    They get first pick.

    Right. But does the losing facility staffing matter as well? Or is it like N90 and those other facilities that can draw from understaffed facilities?

  9. Shikaka #49
    Spoony90 said:

    Right. But does the losing facility staffing matter as well? Or is it like N90 and those other facilities that can draw from understaffed facilities?

    Yes it does matter, special consideration just means they get the first pick of ERRs from releasing facilities.

  10. Phillytroll69 #50

    Is selections posted before tols go out? Im going to be looking for a friend. Also, where do we look

  11. GulfBravoPapa #51
    Phillytroll69 said:

    Is selections posted before tols go out? Im going to be looking for a friend. Also, where do we look

    Yes. Either on KSN or the Natca website

  12. Phillytroll69 #52
    GulfBravoPapa said:

    Yes. Either on KSN or the Natca website

    Maybe its mobile but for some reason I cannot figure out the natca site lmao

  13. Mike Kilo #53
    Phillytroll69 said:

    Maybe its mobile but for some reason I cannot figure out the natca site lmao

    Yah they are ********. I usually just google Natca and NCEPT together and it gets me to the right site to log in.

    Sign In with Auth0

  14. Gauff #54
    Phillytroll69 said:

    Maybe its mobile but for some reason I cannot figure out the natca site lmao

    On Mobile:
    NATCA.org -> Menu bar (top right) -> Members Home (and login) -> Menu bar (top right) -> NCEPT

    All the information is there with selection lists as well when they get posted

  15. Dontbotherme #55

    Rumor around here is A80 is off the priority release list as there are too many trainees in the building and pipeline.

  16. Phillytroll69 #56

    Where list

  17. Nothanks #57
    Phillytroll69 said:

    Where list

    What list ?

  18. Phillytroll69 #58
    Nothanks said:

    What list ?

    Selection list. Where do I find it on ksn or union site

  19. Nothanks #59
    Phillytroll69 said:

    Selection list. Where do I find it on ksn or union site

    Selection list? For the August 15th panel that hasn’t happened yet ?

  20. christiansmithnwa #60

    Hiya. Is there a fresh August Expected to Target document released yet? If so, would someone mind dropping the latest one from NATCA's site? I'm about to go to academy, so I don't have access there yet. I'm doing some early work on which facilities I might target coming out of academy.

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