Enroute Class pass rate

GulfCharlie said:

Or even be able to leave in 5-10 years and get home.

Are any of the other desirable Z's able to consistently release? Could've gone that route and rolled the dice at ZHU, ZFW, ZDV, etc.

RalphBeast said:

Are any of the other desirable Z's able to consistently release? Could've gone that route and rolled the dice at ZHU, ZFW, ZDV, etc

Go hang out at a 12 for a few years and transfer down to zlc? Sounds like a good plan financially. But then again it sounds like they were the bottom of the class, maybe weren’t that smart to begin with.

Logical_Mongoose said:

The undecided person ended up resigning because they couldn't pick the facility they wanted (wanted ZLC but it was already picked twice). I think that's the first time it has happened for enroute, but it's a little wild to see it trickling up from the terminal side. 😱🤯🤣

It's hard to recruit people with a high-potential to do this job competently whilst telling them they'll have to move somewhere they don't want to live and potentially make less than they can in career fields they are leaving or went to school for.

You got it wrong buddy. She didn't want ZLC.

yancarlos4500 said:

You got it wrong buddy. She didn't want ZLC.

I'll never dispute the idea that the Internet lies, but this information seems like it's coming directly from the academy classmates.

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10/28 Enroute List

Class finished 9/14
Picked:
2x ZBW
2x ZDC
2x ZTL
ZLC
ZKC
Undecided

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

What’s going to happen when the centers that haven’t been picked in months start to need trainees… I see (or don’t see) a few certain centers never being selected.

anustart said:

What’s going to happen when the centers that haven’t been picked in months start to need trainees… I see (or don’t see) a few certain centers never being selected.

What's gonna happen is we're fucked.

We'll become mandatory but just until enough get forced. Then no one picks us again. Rinse and repeat

anustart said:

What’s going to happen when the centers that haven’t been picked in months start to need trainees… I see (or don’t see) a few certain centers never being selected.

Ideally they put out bids and move money

Soul_Controller said:

Ideally they put out bids and move money

I chuckled

anustart said:

What’s going to happen when the centers that haven’t been picked in months start to need trainees… I see (or don’t see) a few certain centers never being selected.

they've taken a few facilities off the list i just havnt put them in bc im lazy

Which centers haven't been selected recently? Seems to be a pretty decent spread since the change.

bomber996 said:

Which centers haven't been selected recently? Seems to be a pretty decent spread since the change.

For one, I haven’t seen my center selected in two months. I haven’t seen

ZBQ edit: ZAB
ZME
ZOA
ZNY

and maybe a handful of ZLAs. But I see the same 5 getting selected every class, sometimes twice.

anustart said:

For one, I haven’t seen my center selected in two months. I haven’t seen

ZBQ
ZME
ZOA
ZNY

and maybe a handful of ZLAs. But I see the same 5 getting selected every class, sometimes twice.

Who is ZBQ?

Nothanks said:

Who is ZBQ?

Whoops ZAB

Keep sending them to my Z so I can get out. Thanks. That or let me do OKC again.

ZNY and ZAB have had multiple in the last 2 months. You need to go back and look at what Hope has posted.

Edit:

Go back a few months and literally all of those facilities (ZAB, ZME, ZOA, ZNY) have been voluntarily selected MULTIPLE times. Maybe they're currently on a facility training hold. I'll check KSN tomorrow.

bomber996 said:

ZNY and ZAB have had multiple in the last 2 months. You need to go back and look at what Hope has posted.

Edit:

Go back a few months and literally all of those facilities (ZAB, ZME, ZOA, ZNY) have been voluntarily selected MULTIPLE times. Maybe they're currently on a facility training hold. I'll check KSN tomorrow.

Yeah I guess if I go back half a year I’ll find 2 or 3 selections for some of those centers. You’re right.

ZAB currently has 61 trainees and is projecting to 92% staffing. ZME currently has 60 trainees and is projecting to 91%. ZNY/ZOA were both priority volunteer placement facilities until this past July when the list selection process changed, but I’m pretty sure you can still volunteer for them both at any time.

anustart said:

Yeah I guess if I go back half a year I’ll find 2 or 3 selections for some of those centers. You’re right.

Go to the previous page of this thread... 4 chose ZNY and 3 chose ZLA, that's just September and part of October this year.

ZOA was also selected several times since they allowed anyone to selected those facilities.

At my Z, someone who wants to be in the area is worth 2-3 AGs that got sent here against their will. They generally tend to put in a higher effort and OJTIs will bend over backwards for them knowing they won't try to GTFO as soon as they checkout. So maybe fewer AGs going to ZNY but far more likely to stick around in the long run, and it's not always the bottom of the class.

RalphBeast said:

Go to the previous page of this thread... 4 chose ZNY and 3 chose ZLA, that's just September and part of October this year.

ZOA was also selected several times since they allowed anyone to selected those facilities.

At my Z, someone who wants to be in the area is worth 2-3 AGs that got sent here against their will. They generally tend to put in a higher effort and OJTIs will bend over backwards for them knowing they won't try to GTFO as soon as they checkout. So maybe fewer AGs going to ZNY but far more likely to stick around in the long run, and it's not always the bottom of the class.

This is a great case for why the FAA needs to revamp how they assign facilities from the word "go."