My friend is a captain on CRJ900s and told me that "CRJs only provide Traffic Advisories below 1000agl, no Resolution Advisory would have been announced. It would have just said “Traffic, Traffic” which I assume they already knew by the fact that ATC told them to pass behind the CRJ."
Midair Collision DCA
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#22 twitter.com/i/web/status/1884804664392093928
Here is actual audio with helicopter pilot
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#23 FightingIrish2012 said:
It’s your fault for supporting DEI and not speaking out against the biographical questionnaire.
You don't even yet know who's at fault yet. You are just babbling
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#24 DankVectorz said:
no RA below 1000’ and no aural TA below 500’ on TCAS. The helicopter reporter *a* plane in sight and asked to maintain visual and was told to pass behind. Possible they didn’t expect to it to turn for the circling manuever or maybe had the wrong in sight or maybe were wearing NVG’s and misjudged. I don’t know if mil helo’s have CVR’s or if we’ll ever know for sure.
If the ADSBexchange image shared by bomber996 is accurate, at 18:47:35 (which is ~30 seconds prior) the helicopter had the aircraft 1.4 miles directly ahead of them and 200 feet above; outside of being at the same elevation that's about as clear as it could get.
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#25 anybody questioning the audio, that voice quality on ATC and control of the frequency don’t sound good.
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#26 ncssailor said:
anybody questioning the audio, that voice quality on ATC and control of the frequency don’t sound good.
The radios used for LIVEATC.com are amateur radio/frequency monitors streamed to the liveATC website. (depending on the location, line of sight of low aircraft or vehicles are very difficult if not impossible to pick up)The official FAA tapes have not been released yet and would have all transmissions sent and received by the controllers.
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#27 If you listen to the audio on Live ATC on the helicopter frequency you can hear PAT25 say he has the aircraft in sight.
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#28 The radar replay has already been leaked
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#29 PapaKilo1317 said:
The radar replay has already been leaked
Man this looks so bad. The copter pilot either didn’t see the right plane or completely misjudged what they were doing. They flew right at them.
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#30 It looks like he is looking at the AA further back still lined up for 1.... Anyone know if there's earlier communication that the PAT would know traffic is circling to 33?
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#31 PapaKilo1317 said:
The radar replay has already been leaked
Telling the copter to “pass behind the CRJ” when the plane is pointed directly at them makes me uncomfortable. Wouldn’t you advise them they were circling for 33? And call traffic to the JIA? Might have saved them had they had traffic called to them. I swear the copter saw someone else. It makes no sense otherwise.
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#32 EightTwoSierra said:
Telling the copter to “pass behind the CRJ” when the plane is pointed directly at them makes me uncomfortable. Wouldn’t you advise them they were circling for 33? And call traffic to the JIA? Might have saved them had they had traffic called to them. I swear the copter saw someone else. It makes no sense otherwise.
Yeah… “he said he had him in sight” is spewed from developmentals all the time and the usual reply from CPCs is it isn’t “ensured”.
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#34 Mike Kilo said:
oof
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#36 PapaKilo1317 said:
The radar replay has already been leaked
Did anyone save this before it was deleted?
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#37 Incoming calls for privatization. Attacks on contract extension legality due to bad faith. Oh boy…
Replay probably taken down as it looked like falcon. Someone is getting investigated….
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#38 Mike Kilo said:
Incoming calls for privatization. Attacks on contract extension legality due to bad faith. Oh boy…
Replay probably taken down as it looked like falcon. Someone is getting investigated….
Get the lube out.
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#39 Mike Kilo said:
Incoming calls for privatization. Attacks on contract extension legality due to bad faith. Oh boy…
Replay probably taken down as it looked like falcon. Someone is getting investigated….
Bad faith by who? Both parties willingly signed.
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#40 Trump is def gonna push for privatization, that shouldn't even be in question at this point. Prepare for things to get bad
