NCEPT ATM Ranking Docs 2017-2019

Kim K

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So for the first 3 panals for 2017, are they in order of how they were ranked since there are no manager rankings?
 

Lvl8twr

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I thought this would get more discussion. Add ages of those at the time of selection and the FAA and NATCA would face major problems! (In my opinion that is)
 

Dolan

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I thought this would get more discussion. Add ages of those at the time of selection and the FAA and NATCA would face major problems! (In my opinion that is)
It's more of the same of when the last two ranking lists got posted. Experience doesn't matter in the slightest and it's all about who you know. I think once people realized that they figured NCEPT has been working this way all along. All the names are redacted too so it's hard to move forward with EEO violations
 

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It's more of the same of when the last two ranking lists got posted. Experience doesn't matter in the slightest and it's all about who you know. I think once people realized that they figured NCEPT has been working this way all along. All the names are redacted too so it's hard to move forward with EEO violations
EEO based on what though. It doesn’t prove that those decisions were made based on race, sex, age, etc. just because you think someone is less qualified experience wise doesn’t make it an EEO claim
 

Mike Kilo

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EEO based on what though. It doesn’t prove that those decisions were made based on race, sex, age, etc. just because you think someone is less qualified experience wise doesn’t make it an EEO claim
Exactly. It’s not a promotion so they don’t have to justify their decisions. It would be very difficult to show any of the actual protected criteria being violated. And with the priority placement, even if one was being discriminatory the way they make selections would skew the data. Not every facility gets who they want anymore.
 

Shikaka

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EEO based on what though. It doesn’t prove that those decisions were made based on race, sex, age, etc. just because you think someone is less qualified experience wise doesn’t make it an EEO claim
And including ATMs have full discretion on ranking ERRs. The best use for this is seeing how they rank or making sure you have matching paperwork with what is shown here. If you had in for a facility and the email showing receipt as well as a release but it's not listed for an ATM to rank, that'd be a grievance
 
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CaptainObvious

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And including ATMs have full discretion on ranking ERRs. The best use for this is seeing how they rank or making sure you have matching paperwork with what is shown here. If you had in for a facility and the email showing receipt as well as a release but it's not listed for an ATM to rank, that'd be a grievance
Exactly. I’m a full believer that NCEPT is terrible, but EEO claims is a complete overreach
 

Dolan

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Exactly. I’m a full believer that NCEPT is terrible, but EEO claims is a complete overreach
Totally depends on the data you have. If you're able to show that over lots of panels ATM's are ranking people in certain ways you'd have a fantastic start on an EEO case. These manager rankings are exactly what would be needed to show that over time, certain criteria are strongly correlated with how applicants are being picked for a given facility.

Again, names are redacted so you'd still need more data but a few years of ranking information is a great sample size.
 

CaptainObvious

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Totally depends on the data you have. If you're able to show that over lots of panels ATM's are ranking people in certain ways you'd have a fantastic start on an EEO case. These manager rankings are exactly what would be needed to show that over time, certain criteria are strongly correlated with how applicants are being picked for a given facility.

Again, names are redacted so you'd still need more data but a few years of ranking information is a great sample size.
Prove that their decision was age/sex/race based
 

Ad1234

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Everyone has the same employee performance rating unless the managers writes something up. Which hardly any do. So there is no hard data criteria to grade someone on. It’s not a promotion, it’s a request to relocate and you said that you’d work anywhere, complain about rankings all you want but This thread and discussion are going nowhere. Get over the fact you are crap employee, no one wants you and the recommendations you get from people or the fact you didn’t kiss enough ass don’t put you at the top of the list. Be best like Melania says and you can make it anywhere, except a second term.
 
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