A2J said:No kidding? Idk what the issue is. Congrats on the start tho
Yeah. The issue sounds like a him thing. IE he's more than likely telling you a different story than what's true.
November 17th Government Shutdown
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#22 Can anyone confirm as to if we will get paid or not should the shutdown occur in a week? The FAA is authorized until the end of the year, but is that the same as having appropriations? I only ask because there is a lot of contradictory information out there. During the 2018/19 shutdown the FAA was authorized, but we all know how that ended. Is there a difference this time?
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#23 bomber996 said:
Can anyone confirm as to if we will get paid or not should the shutdown occur in a week? The FAA is authorized until the end of the year, but is that the same as having appropriations? I only ask because there is a lot of contradictory information out there. During the 2018/19 shutdown the FAA was authorized, but we all know how that ended. Is there a difference this time?
The difference is that back pay is guaranteed for federal employees PERIOD whether furlough or worked. You won't get your differentials and stuff if you are furloughed. That's the law.
The funding thing is what I'm not sure about. I think it's just a rumor that we will be paid in a shutdown....a rumor that doesn't make sense.
They won't have a shutdown since they are paying anyways
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#24 No pay during a shutdown, authorization and appropriations are different
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#25 Guys don’t worry we are negotiating with a guy who has anti porn software on his computer. He should be very reasonable.
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#26 Atc1001 said:
No pay during a shutdown, authorization and appropriations are different
Are you cheering for no pay during the shut down? I sort of am, I think it could galvanize the workforce to demand razewn? Or NATCA could successfully spin it into “you have us to thank for getting paid anything at all” and lots of idiots would believe that and endorse the establishment.
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#27 FightingIrish2012 said:
Are you cheering for no pay during the shut down? I sort of am, I think it could galvanize the workforce to demand razewn? Or NATCA could successfully spin it into “you have us to thank for getting paid anything at all” and lots of idiots would believe that and endorse the establishment.
It doesn’t matter there’s always a certain percentage of the workforce that is addicted to OT and will still go work all their OT during the shutdown vs trying to make a statement.
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#28 ncssailor said:
It doesn’t matter there’s always a certain percentage of the workforce that is addicted to OT and will still go work all their OT during the shutdown vs trying to make a statement.
We have one who's already said he will ONLY work his OTs if there's a shutdown
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#29 N737ER said:
We have one who's already said he will ONLY work his OTs if there's a shutdown
This person is the real hero
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#30 bomber996 said:
This person is the real her
N737ER said:
We have one who's already said he will ONLY work his OTs if there's a shutdown
I guess if that person is gone the other 5 days each week that’s a statement maker too!
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#31 ncssailor said:
I guess if that person is gone the other 5 days each week that’s a statement maker too!
Well my detail duties are furloughed but I'll still come in for ot
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#32 Phillytroll69 said:
Well my detail duties are furloughed but I'll still come in for ot
That’s a shitty operation you must be running.
All our pros (3) don’t even maintain currency on their full time article 114 gigs!
Never mind we’ve hit the lowest CPC numbers yet, with more people retiring soon! Must support the agency and their boondoggles I mean projects!
Wanna hear a great thing I’d advocate for as president if I couldn’t gut ncept immediately? No more article 114 releases to help the agency unless we can release a transfer or ERR from said facility! Apply the same rules! Bring them all back if we can’t release from a facility.
Suddenly it hurts those upper echelon people! Oh the humanity! Maybe the FAA would give more of a shit about staffing if suddenly NATCA couldn’t babysit all their projects.
But no one else running would want this, it’d hurt the loyalists. I would fucking go all in.
End rant/
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#33 FightingIrish2012 said:
Are you cheering for no pay during the shut down? I sort of am, I think it could galvanize the workforce to demand razewn? Or NATCA could successfully spin it into “you have us to thank for getting paid anything at all” and lots of idiots would believe that and endorse the establishment.
I don’t think it has any relevance on ATC getting a raise. The fact we are guaranteed back pay with no charge to leave will cripple their games of a shutdown now.
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#34 They predator class has spent $2.233 trillion since they lifted the debt ceiling in June. Not the greatest ROI, but FAA controllers are some of the best paid government employees.
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#35 Hal9000 said:
The predator class has spent $2.233 trillion since they lifted the debt ceiling in June. Not the greatest ROI, but FAA controllers are some of the best paid government employees.
The FAA brings in enough in fees to cover it
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#36 Phillytroll69 said:
The funding thing is what I'm not sure about. I think it's just a rumor that we will be paid in a shutdown....a rumor that doesn't make sense.
Someone wrote a bill a couple Congresses back which would have allowed us to be paid out of the Airways & Aviation Trust Fund during a shutdown, but it never went anywhere. Situation normal, no pay until the shutdown is over.
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#37 Hal9000 said:
They predator class has spent $2.233 trillion since they lifted the debt ceiling in June. Not the greatest ROI, but FAA controllers are some of the best paid government employees.
Let's also remember that there were about 6 months or so of "extraordinary measures" that had to be refunded, or paid back, or whatever they do that that Monopoly money. Not all new spending.
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#38 bomber996 said:
Let's also remember that there were about 6 months or so of "extraordinary measures" that had to be refunded, or paid back, or whatever they do that that Monopoly money. Not all new spending.
Remember the time they gave a handout to every business owner in America then blamed it on people getting 1000 dollar checks. That was funny
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#39 jdatc said:
That’s a shitty operation you must be running.
All our pros (3) don’t even maintain currency on their full time article 114 gigs!
Never mind we’ve hit the lowest CPC numbers yet, with more people retiring soon! Must support the agency and their boondoggles I mean projects!
Wanna hear a great thing I’d advocate for as president if I couldn’t gut ncept immediately? No more article 114 releases to help the agency unless we can release a transfer or ERR from said facility! Apply the same rules! Bring them all back if we can’t release from a facility.
Suddenly it hurts those upper echelon people! Oh the humanity! Maybe the FAA would give more of a shit about staffing if suddenly NATCA couldn’t babysit all their projects.
But no one else running would want this, it’d hurt the loyalists. I would fucking go all in.
End rant/
Did we just become best friends?
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