November (Q1) 2021

Anyone have a rough list of places that are able to accept controllers based on these rules?

Dolan said:

Anyone have a rough list of places that are able to accept controllers based on these rules?

The panel back in May (June), someone listed all the facilities that would hypothetically be able to select. Don’t remember the username.

Super Salt said:

The panel back in May (June), someone listed all the facilities that would hypothetically be able to select. Don’t remember the username.

didn’t it end up being way off because they just did whatever they wanted lol

jdatc said:

So what is the answer/endgame?

Maybe management should try rewarding better trainers with time off awards (preferably) or cash awards but they don’t. Why?

I think only a certain amount of people should be trainers, give them more pay overall, make it an application process, that way if the trainers are good, you are churning out good consistent atcs, and can more easily identify training issues also will help truly determine how many trainees can be at a facility rather than this bullshit percentage, maybe spreading the wealth to other facilities.

And the lab should be run 16 hours a day that way trainers can iron out problems whenever they want

CF said:

didn’t it end up being way off because they just did whatever they wanted lol

I think you mean dynamic decisions...

Dolan said:

Anyone have a rough list of places that are able to accept controllers based on these rules?

Not gospel, but by my math (based on October PPT):

A80
ACK
BOI
BOS
C90
D01
D21
HCF
ICT
JFK
LAX
LGB
M98
NCT
ORD
ORF
PHL
PHX
SCT
SDF

I posted the facilities that would have qualified for the May/June panel based on the rules as shown on the KSN. It was broadly accurate but the decisions were definitely dynamic... I'll take a look when the next PPT comes out

redsphanatic said:

Not gospel, but by my math (based on October PPT):

A80
ACK
BOI
BOS
C90
D01
D21
HCF
ICT
JAX
JFK
LAX
LGB
M98
MIA
N90
NCT
ORD
ORF
PHL
PHX
SCT
SDF
Y90
ZNY

No way that MIA is at or below 30% trainee/CPC ratio (or whatever the rule/ratio is).

Super Salt said:

No way that MIA is at or below 30% trainee/CPC ratio (or whatever the rule/ratio is).

Thanks for checking... my edits didn't save. My OP was updated.

(Removed JAX, MIA, N90, Y90, ZNY)

redsphanatic said:

Thanks for checking... my edits didn't save. My OP was updated.

(Removed JAX, MIA, N90, Y90, ZNY)

Should also remove C90 and PHL since they don't pick up via ncept.

Trying to see if I'm reading the round one rules and PPT right..

For gaining column L has to be less than 85 and AA has to be less than the average of 90 and then AF has to be less than 30?

For releasing L and AA both have to be at or above 85?

Acquired Taste said:

Should also remove C90 and PHL since they don't pick up via ncept.

PHL picked up last panel.

redsphanatic said:

PHL picked up last panel.

Yes because the panel took place before the bid was out.

Assuming both the national average & trainee/CPC ratios don't differ much, here's a quick over as to who might be able to pick up in Round 1:

A80
A90
ACK
ANC
BFI
BFL
BOI
BOS
D01
D21
DEN
EMT
FLL
I90
IAH
ICT
JCF
LAS
M98
MOB
MSY
NCT
ORD
ORF
PCT
PUB
SCT
SDF
STL
TPA
TUL
ZDV
ZFW
ZLA
ZMA
ZME
ZSE

Some are right on the verge of not being eligible (+/- .05%)

Morgan_Freeman_But_Not said:

Assuming both the national average & trainee/CPC ratios don't differ much, here's a quick over as to who might be able to pick up in Round 1:

A80
A90
ACK
ANC
BFI
BFL
BOI
BOS
D01
D21
DEN
EMT
FLL
I90
IAH
ICT
JCF
LAS
M98
MOB
MSY
NCT
ORD
ORF
PCT
PUB
SCT
SDF
STL
TPA
TUL
ZDV
ZFW
ZLA
ZMA
ZME
ZSE

Some are right on the verge of not being eligible (+/- .05%)

Is LAX going to be ineligible?

As of the last PPT yes. Their current CPC % is at 100% (needs to be below 85). Their projected & CPC/trainee ratio is good though.

So if you're a Z looking to transfer stfu and take it. Got it.

Morgan_Freeman_But_Not said:

As of the last PPT yes. Their current CPC % is at 100% (needs to be below 85). Their projected & CPC/trainee ratio is good though.

Wouldn’t this mean they can grab someone round 2?

CharlieNovember said:

So if you're a Z looking to transfer stfu and take it. Got it.

7 of the 21 Z's can release as of right now. That's probably a higher percentage than the amount of terminal facilities that can release.

Acquired Taste said:

7 of the 21 Z's can release as of right now. That's probably a higher percentage than the amount of terminal facilities that can release.

Yeah but they have it sooooo rough because they’re only making 150k living in a real city with things to actually do give them a break ?