Spaceforce said:GTF
So a facility that's one CPC away from releasing where you can rent a 4 bedroom house for under 2k/month? Idk, man. Grass is always greener I guess, but I think it's fair to say that all 15 controllers there have a better shot of getting out than any of the 159 CPCs in Oakland paying 4k/month for a 2BR apartment.
BDUB said:I request that on your next set of RDO’s you go visit the foothills of America where 90% of the lvl 5 facility wants to leave…then try and tell those same controllers that have been there for 8+ yrs how life in Indy/Abq/Oakland is so awful and making 150k+ is so hard.
Honestly.... I'd rather make 80k a year in flyover country than 150k a year in Oakland from a cost of living standpoint.
My facility has released 2 people since the start of NCEPT. I too would hate working in Oakland however the amount of things to do and people to meet there compared to a lvl4 5 or 6 BFE tower is astronomical. I guess it’s all about what you like hope everyone gets what they want in the end ??♂️
I'm now seeing on some social media posts that the new ERR submission deadline is OCT 4th. Can anyone verify?
fivebyfive said:I'm now seeing on some social media posts that the new ERR submission deadline is OCT 4th. Can anyone verify?
Natca page says October 4th.
CharlieNovember said:So a facility that's one CPC away from releasing where you can rent a 4 bedroom house for under 2k/month? Idk, man. Grass is always greener I guess, but I think it's fair to say that all 15 controllers there have a better shot of getting out than any of the 159 CPCs in Oakland paying 4k/month for a 2BR apartment.
It’ll take you like 3 years to certify. At that level 5
Spaceforce said:It’ll take you like 3 years to certify. At that level 5
8 with covid*
Centers, with the exception of a few like Oakland and new York, basically got to transfer at will for a long time so I'm not surprised that a lot of middle of nowhere facility people don't care about center problems
BDUB said:My facility has released 2 people since the start of NCEPT. I too would hate working in Oakland however the amount of things to do and people to meet there compared to a lvl4 5 or 6 BFE tower is astronomical. I guess it’s all about what you like hope everyone gets what they want in the end ??♂️
Agreed. No use getting into a pissing match about who has it worse when everyone’s getting boned. I just hope the system changes and people have a realistic shot at living where they want to live.
Spaceforce said:It’ll take you like 3 years to certify. At that level 5
That was the case, luckily a lot of those facilities were consolidated, or the assholes who trained that way retired and are telling their level 5 war stories at the local American Legion now.
FightingIrish2012 said:That was the case, luckily a lot of those facilities were consolidated, or the assholes who trained that way retired and are telling their level 5 war stories at the local American Legion now.
Yeah it’s more like 2yrs then waiting another 2yrs for new academy trainees because who knows how that process really works ?
FightingIrish2012 said:That was the case, luckily a lot of those facilities were consolidated, or the assholes who trained that way retired and are telling their level 5 war stories at the local American Legion now.
I'm closer to 4 years at my facility than I am to 3 and I still haven't even had a class for downstairs yet.
My 8 year career has probably been nearly 3/4s training. FAA efficiency at its finest now I tell you it's all better now.
Edit- training status....maybe 2.5 years total actually training of that 6ish
BDUB said:Personally I’d hate living in all 3 of those spots lol. But imagine your retirement and how easy it is to meet new people and have a life in all of those cities. Now take a lvl 5 facility in middle of nowhere and the only benefit is almost a guarantee to make it everything else is absolute trash
You must not know where ZLA is my dude. It's in the desert outside LA usually about 1.5 drive.
DBWest said:You must not know where ZLA is my dude. It's in the desert outside LA usually about 1.5 drive.
ZLA has a 2.5 year average check out time, 150k in Palmdale is pretty smooth riding.
Shikaka said:ZLA has a 2.5 year average check out time, 150k in Palmdale is pretty smooth riding.
Yah if you are ok with living in freaking Palmdale lol
32andBelow said:Yah if you are ok with living in freaking Palmdale lol
oH nO iM uPpEr MiDdLe cLaSs In A oKaYiSh PlAcE tO lIvE
Shikaka said:oH nO iM uPpEr MiDdLe cLaSs In A oKaYiSh PlAcE tO lIvE
At least it’s not Victorville
Shikaka said:oH nO iM uPpEr MiDdLe cLaSs In A oKaYiSh PlAcE tO lIvE
Im pretty convinced any of the mid level facilities in moderately sized and priced cities (or a center that's in a place like that) is a better standard of living than a core 30 in a big city.
As long as you can get a one hop connecting flight to an intl airport on the east or west coast (depending on your travel preferences, if that's something you are interested in) there's a mid sized city somewhere that fits just about everyone's needs and personality I think.
32andBelow said:Yah if you are ok with living in freaking Palmdale lol
Sounds a hell of a lot better than any of those low level Louisiana towers.
Shikaka said:ZLA has a 2.5 year average check out time, 150k in Palmdale is pretty smooth riding.
It's not a terrible area. It's more of the "it doesn't have stuff that I want to do in my free time." Also it's ungodly hot.
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