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so not being familiar with blanks, if you were handed a revolver and you check the chamber, can you tell if it’s a blank or a live round? Like if Alec was handed a gun, told it was loaded with a blank, would a visual inspection short of popping the round out and looking at show it was a live round and not a blank?
Yah you can tell. I have a dummy round, a real round, and a blank in the pic below. I’ve been told that actors aren’t allowed to mess with the guns after being checked and set up by the prop people though. Not that I want to defend Baldwin since he was fucking with it outside of a shooting scene (unless he was told it was empty and not with blanks). Hard to judge without all the facts.

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Yah you can tell. I have a dummy round, a real round, and a blank in the pic below. I’ve been told that actors aren’t allowed to mess with the guns after being checked and set up by the prop people though. Not that I want to defend Baldwin since he was fucking with it outside of a shooting scene (unless he was told it was empty and not with blanks). Hard to judge without all the facts.

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I mean yeah that’s easy to tell as standing alone, but loaded in the chamber of a revolver would you be able to tell? That’s why I specified revolver in my question, cause unless you take it out of the chamber I don’t think you can see the front when it’s in the chamber.
 
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Nope. But here’s the thing. They would look real, so you treat the gun as loaded with real bullets. Gun safety 101 and he’s just adding to a statistic I’m sure he likes to tout about gun violence.
While I agree with all of this.... I can absolutely see a dude whose only gun exposure is likely on movie sets where the opposite is true (typically he can always assume they are "safe", just due to the nature of his exposure to them and the usual situation on a movie set) playing it fast and loose with gun rule numero uno, if he even thought about it at all.

I honestly don't blame him that much aside from being really fucking stupid and having a whole lot of tweets and public statements that didn't age well. Just a terrible shitty accident that should have been prevented by the people ensuring safety and ammo accountability on the job site.
 
You clowns deleted my post and issued a warning without explanation again. There was absolutely nothing wrong with admiring this lady!
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LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE MEDALS!
Imagine your masculinity being so brittle, your heteroness dancing on the razor thin edge like a dude in a sailor outfit on a float, the mere thought of someone living differently than you drives you mad.

Just imagine. Bruh just put bigger tires on your truck it'll help I swear.
 
While I agree with all of this.... I can absolutely see a dude whose only gun exposure is likely on movie sets where the opposite is true (typically he can always assume they are "safe", just due to the nature of his exposure to them and the usual situation on a movie set) playing it fast and loose with gun rule numero uno, if he even thought about it at all.

I honestly don't blame him that much aside from being really fucking stupid and having a whole lot of tweets and public statements that didn't age well. Just a terrible shitty accident that should have been prevented by the people ensuring safety and ammo accountability on the job site.
I mean I feel ya. And I do feel bad for him. Nobody wants to accidentally kill someone no matter the method. I specify accidentally… ?. But I feel like everyone doing any acting with firearms needs to have safety classes and educate themselves on proper gun handling. Maybe the actors need to be included in the prop firearm setup with multiple checks on the system.

It’s not the first time people have been killed on set. I’m sure everyone knew about the previous safety violations. They probably talk as much as we do when someone fucks up lol.
 
I mean I feel ya. And I do feel bad for him. Nobody wants to accidentally kill someone no matter the method. I specify accidentally… ?. But I feel like everyone doing any acting with firearms needs to have safety classes and educate themselves on proper gun handling. Maybe the actors need to be included in the prop firearm setup with multiple checks on the system.
At the end of the day, don’t point and pull the trigger of any firearm, real or fake, at someone if you aren’t meaning to harm them
 
At the end of the day, don’t point and pull the trigger of any firearm, real or fake, at someone if you aren’t meaning to harm them
This is normally always true but in the acting world when someone hands you a gun and tells you it’s cold you assume it’s fine. Is that a great policy? Maybe not but it’s literally someone’s job to make sure of this. It’s a shitty situation all around and someone’s head should roll for it, just not sure who yet.
 
I mean I feel ya. And I do feel bad for him. Nobody wants to accidentally kill someone no matter the method. I specify accidentally… ?. But I feel like everyone doing any acting with firearms needs to have safety classes and educate themselves on proper gun handling. Maybe the actors need to be included in the prop firearm setup with multiple checks on the system.

It’s not the first time people have been killed on set. I’m sure everyone knew about the previous safety violations. They probably talk as much as we do when someone fucks up lol.
Agree. Maybe that's a change that'll happen. You are seeing it more and more these days, reference say....Keanu Reeves, Will Smith etc. I think it also makes the action more believable. And maybe shows some of these Hollywood types guns aren't the death machines they think they are when handled properly.
At the end of the day, don’t point and pull the trigger of any firearm, real or fake, at someone if you aren’t meaning to harm them
Again, agree with this as a general rule, but sometimes pointing a gun at someone and pulling a trigger is part of a movie. Just need to make sure it's done in a 100 percent controlled, safe manner.
 
This is normally always true but in the acting world when someone hands you a gun and tells you it’s cold you assume it’s fine. Is that a great policy? Maybe not but it’s literally someone’s job to make sure of this. It’s a shitty situation all around and someone’s head should roll for it, just not sure who yet.
I mean in this situation it has to be placed on whoever is in charge of the guns on set, like you said they don’t expect there to be live ammunition
 
I mean in this situation it has to be placed on whoever is in charge of the guns on set, like you said they don’t expect there to be live ammunition
Do we know if it was a real bullet that killed her? At point blank range even the plug from a blank in the hand cannons they use in westerns could go right through you.
 
This is normally always true but in the acting world when someone hands you a gun and tells you it’s cold you assume it’s fine. Is that a great policy? Maybe not but it’s literally someone’s job to make sure of this. It’s a shitty situation all around and someone’s head should roll for it, just not sure who yet.
Most definitely the people who supplied the guns and "gun expert" for the movie.
I mean in this situation it has to be placed on whoever is in charge of the guns on set, like you said they don’t expect there to be live ammunition
That's the info I want. Why was there ANY live ammo there at all? I don't even keep live ammo in the general vicinity of myself when I'm cleaning/working on/dry fire practicing with guns and I consider myself pretty well versed with guns and pretty cognizant of what's going on when I'm using them.

Do we know if it was a real bullet that killed her? At point blank range even the plug from a blank in the hand cannons they use in westerns could go right through you.
Well it went thru her and hit the director. That says real bullet with ballistic power and terminal effectiveness, not random barrel plug flying all willy nilly after coming undone from a low power blank.
 
Most definitely the people who supplied the guns and "gun expert" for the movie.

That's the info I want. Why was there ANY live ammo there at all? I don't even keep live ammo in the general vicinity of myself when I'm cleaning/working on/dry fire practicing with guns and I consider myself pretty well versed with guns and pretty cognizant of what's going on when I'm using them.
Wait you dry fire your guns???? That’s just practicing for murder!!!! Don’t let the courts hear about that…. You don’t live in a red flag state do you? ?
 
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