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Trump at least kept NK and Russia at bay. The fact the MSM is still talking about him daily shows he was more influential than Obama. Obama is basically forgotten now.

lmao ya totally would have kept him at bay here
 

Here we go. Good on sanctions, but there’s consequences. You guys ready? We will be the ones affected & the poor will suffer a lot more
I'll pay a little more at the pump rather than send my neighbor's kid to go die in some frozen foxhole in some town whose name he can't pronounce.....

Wanna represent the free world gotta do free world representing things.
 
It would be a good time for OPEC to just flood the market and cancel Russia’s oil industry
That ain't gonna happen. They already kept the spigots open during covid to cancel the U.S. shale industry and ultimately drive the price of oil higher. Besides, China will gladly buy up Russian oil at a slight discount if no one wants to do business. Russia is in a position of power. They have plenty of oil and gold. I believe they also manufacture a lot of things there. They are a net exporter whose economy makes more than they consume and runs a surplus. It's a little like trying to sanction and hurt when they are the ones who make everything we consume. You can see how it doesn't work so easily when the people who make nothing of value start withholding those worthless goods/services. Putin is dominating this game of 4D chess against President pudding brain who doesn't even realize he's playing
 
That ain't gonna happen.
This is true.

They already kept the spigots open during covid to cancel the U.S. shale industry and ultimately drive the price of oil higher.
Also true.
Besides, China will gladly buy up Russian oil at a slight discount if no one wants to do business.
Definitely true.
Russia is in a position of power. They have plenty of oil and gold.
True, partially but only if reference to Ukraine.
I believe they also manufacture a lot of things there.
Here's where you go wrong. McCain has it right. They are a large gas station with nukes.

They are a net exporter whose economy makes more than they consume
In fuel.
and runs a surplus.
Only because of the oil.
It's a little like trying to sanction and hurt when they are the ones who make everything we consume.
Are you European? Your gas doesn't come from there. And I don't know if you heard, even the euros are shutting down nordstream 2 plans for now.

You can see how it doesn't work so easily when the people who make nothing of value start withholding those worthless goods/services.
Yes, the entire financial might of the western world, and the US dollar the world economy runs on.

You should go look at how bad the 2014 sanctions hit them. Thier economy is down nearly 20 percent last I saw just from this incursion.

I've been, multiple times. You can buy a 4 course Michelin starred meal for 4 with drinks, wine, and dessert for a few hundred bucks US in Moscow. Most of Russia is a depressed shithole outside the big cities. They heavily rely on the US dollar and western luxury goods.

Putin is dominating this game of 4D chess
Honestly he kind of painted himself in a corner here. There is no good outcome here. Best case he gets cold Iraq, worst case he gets egg on his face and sanctions him into the ground, out of office and knowing Russian politics maybe off a bridge into a river.
against President pudding brain who doesn't even realize he's playing
Biden actually playing this one pretty well IMHO.

I mean what would you have him do?
 
Since you bring up US shale wouldn’t they come back online in big numbers like it did the last time oil was a over 100? People act like oils never been above 100 before.

Shale fields shut down cus it wasn’t profitable when oil was cheaper
 
This is true.


Also true.

Definitely true.

True, partially but only if reference to Ukraine.

Here's where you go wrong. McCain has it right. They are a large gas station with nukes.


In fuel.

Only because of the oil.

Are you European? Your gas doesn't come from there. And I don't know if you heard, even the euros are shutting down nordstream 2 plans for now.


Yes, the entire financial might of the western world, and the US dollar the world economy runs on.

You should go look at how bad the 2014 sanctions hit them. Thier economy is down nearly 20 percent last I saw just from this incursion.

I've been, multiple times. You can buy a 4 course Michelin starred meal for 4 with drinks, wine, and dessert for a few hundred bucks US in Moscow. Most of Russia is a depressed shithole outside the big cities. They heavily rely on the US dollar and western luxury goods.


Honestly he kind of painted himself in a corner here. There is no good outcome here. Best case he gets cold Iraq, worst case he gets egg on his face and sanctions him into the ground, out of office and knowing Russian politics maybe off a bridge into a river.

Biden actually playing this one pretty well IMHO.

I mean what would you have him do?
I can't figure out how to respond neatly and individually to each point as I'm on my phone/impatient/dumb. Anyway I left a key word out of one point I was trying to make and that was it would be "a little like us trying to sanction CHINA" when they make all the shit we need/buy. And yes, I didn't forgot to consider their oil exports into my figure for how they got to the point of running surpluses every year.

The thing is that I don't think it makes too much difference. I think even if they invade Ukraine, China is secretly in support of it because want to do something similar with Taiwan. I think it would be logical for Russia and China to buddy up and trade and support each other economically if Russia got cut out of dealings with the west. At the end of the day, money talks and bullshit walks and Russia has energy that would make sense for China to buy. Who gives a fuck about the usd? It's in a decline and has only maintained world reserve status as it has been used to settle oil transactions. But the US has abused its privilege as the reserve currency issuer for far too long and I'm sure there's nothing China would love more than to really get the shift started towards broad adoption of the digital yuan/petroyuan. Russia and China have been strategically positioning for the downfall of the west for generations and the chickens have all but come home to roost. The western economies are by and large houses of cards built on artificially low interest rates and central planning. At risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I think the great reset foundation is playing out right before our very eyes here.

As far as Putin, I think he'll probably end up invading and the west ain't gonna do shit about it. Ukraine isn't worth nuclear war. I'm largely a noninterventionist. I don't give a fuck what they do on that side of the world so long as they don't pose a threat to the U.S. We've been the world police for far to long and the war mongers in Washington are dying for some conflict to take away the attention and provide a scapegoat for the economic implosion on the horizon at home.

I think the best play for Biden would be what Tulsi Gabbard suggested. Just guarantee to Russia that Ukraine won't become a part of nato in exchange for no invasion.

Admittedly though, I'm not 100% fluent in eastern European geo politics so maybe I'm just an idiot.

Since you bring up US shale wouldn’t they come back online in big numbers like it did the last time oil was a over 100? People act like oils never been above 100 before.

Shale fields shut down cus it wasn’t profitable when oil was cheaper
Shale is very expensive to produce and needed oil above $70 ish to be profitable before inflation really got going. Now I'd guess breakeven crude would be about $80-85 but that's just pure speculation. The thing is, it made a lot of sense to so it when oil was $150 a barrel. So much sense that a lot of companies started exploring/drilling/fracking for the oil. The problem is they took on an absolute fuck ton of debt to do it because it's a very expensive industry to break in to. When the oil prices came crashing down as supply came online, many of those companies went belly up and a lot of the lenders got fucked. Long story short, they'd have to be idiots who love terrible risk/reward ratios on their money to race to start up the shale industry again. Not to mention Biden and the green new dealers would never allow it.
 
Don’t worry guys. You don’t think capitalism won’t work this time. Rising prices = new entrants right.

There’s no way China wants to risk manufacturing all of the wests shit.
 
I can't figure out how to respond neatly and individually to each point as I'm on my phone/impatient/dumb. Anyway I left a key word out of one point I was trying to make and that was it would be "a little like us trying to sanction CHINA" when they make all the shit we need/buy. And yes, I didn't forgot to consider their oil exports into my figure for how they got to the point of running surpluses every year.

The thing is that I don't think it makes too much difference. I think even if they invade Ukraine, China is secretly in support of it because want to do something similar with Taiwan. I think it would be logical for Russia and China to buddy up and trade and support each other economically if Russia got cut out of dealings with the west. At the end of the day, money talks and bullshit walks and Russia has energy that would make sense for China to buy. Who gives a fuck about the usd? It's in a decline and has only maintained world reserve status as it has been used to settle oil transactions. But the US has abused its privilege as the reserve currency issuer for far too long and I'm sure there's nothing China would love more than to really get the shift started towards broad adoption of the digital yuan/petroyuan. Russia and China have been strategically positioning for the downfall of the west for generations and the chickens have all but come home to roost. The western economies are by and large houses of cards built on artificially low interest rates and central planning. At risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I think the great reset foundation is playing out right before our very eyes here.

As far as Putin, I think he'll probably end up invading and the west ain't gonna do shit about it. Ukraine isn't worth nuclear war. I'm largely a noninterventionist. I don't give a fuck what they do on that side of the world so long as they don't pose a threat to the U.S. We've been the world police for far to long and the war mongers in Washington are dying for some conflict to take away the attention and provide a scapegoat for the economic implosion on the horizon at home.

I think the best play for Biden would be what Tulsi Gabbard suggested. Just guarantee to Russia that Ukraine won't become a part of nato in exchange for no invasion.

Admittedly though, I'm not 100% fluent in eastern European geo politics so maybe I'm just an idiot.


Shale is very expensive to produce and needed oil above $70 ish to be profitable before inflation really got going. Now I'd guess breakeven crude would be about $80-85 but that's just pure speculation. The thing is, it made a lot of sense to so it when oil was $150 a barrel. So much sense that a lot of companies started exploring/drilling/fracking for the oil. The problem is they took on an absolute fuck ton of debt to do it because it's a very expensive industry to break in to. When the oil prices came crashing down as supply came online, many of those companies went belly up and a lot of the lenders got fucked. Long story short, they'd have to be idiots who love terrible risk/reward ratios on their money to race to start up the shale industry again. Not to mention Biden and the green new dealers would never allow it.
It's not at all like us sanctioning China. Russia has a smaller gdp than some US states. Italy is like 3 percent of the landmass in Russia, and outranks them in GDP. Thier population is on the decline, the ruble is trash, and they make up a grand total of like 5 percent of goods imported to the west minus gas products.

China is none of those things, and probably our biggest trading partner. They can hurt us back with sanctions, Russia can't.


I don't disagree china is watching this with a close eye in regards to the taiwan of it all, and *for now* is being somewhat warm towards Russia. They actually have their own border disputes that are long running, and truth be told this is win win for China. They'll get oil at a cut rate because they'll have a captive market with Russia, who won't have anyone else to sell to (this won't help Russias bottom line mind you). It's less a marriage and more a friends with benefits arrangement for China at the end of the day.

You'll get no arguments from me on China becoming the global power inside 100 years, probably less, and the west being on the decline, though im sure we differ on how to fix that besides the vague point of less reliance on cheap Chinese goods.

I too am non interventionist, which is why I can (for now) get behind how the western powers are handling this. We aren't going in guns blazing. You are right, as much as I feel for the plight of the Ukrainians, it's not worth the potential for nukes flying, but it's not world policing if all the western democracies are joining together on a united front. This ain't Iraq.

I like some of what tulsi says, however I don't see how she or anyone else thinks it's the US, or any other NATO country's interest to allow the prime adversary of NATO to dictate who we allow into our purely defensive alliance, and it's not Russia's choice to dictate a region in another countrys independence. That whole stance is garbage. Also, check the news, they already invaded my dude. Again, the strong man tactic painted Putin into a corner where he HAD to invade. He made the bed for Russia here, If the US and EU choose to tuck them in good and tight, maybe it's time for a change in management in Moscow, which is the point of Sanctions.

On top of all this..... They do pose a threat to the US and our allies. No, not one currently worth an active fight, but one certainly worth working to contain.

Noninterventionalism is not the same as letting someone run roughshod until we need to intervene militarily. That's what we are trying to prevent here. Appeasement doesn't work, reference the Sudetenland.

It's kind of a tough sell for me that the conservative freedom and democracy crowd is all about stanning the authoritarian dictators of the world while the trample Democratic ideals these days. Just mind boggling.
 
I don’t watch him at all, but at least be honest and post the whole clip. Most of his 2 minute clip seems like sarcasm & a cheap shot at the disaster US Dems have been (locking people in their homes, CRT, drugs, etc)


But Media Matters?
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I’m sorry I post a bad source to an actual video my b. My favorite part is when he had to explain to their viewers there’s a country called Ukraine
 
I’m sorry I post a bad source to an actual video my b.
It’s no big, I don’t get my panties in a bunch. You have to see through the sarcasm in his points tho. Not defending Putin either.
We tend to critize without pointing the finger at ourselves, which Tucker shows
 
It’s no big, I don’t get my panties in a bunch. You have to see through the sarcasm in his points tho. Not defending Putin either.
We tend to critize without pointing the finger at ourselves, which Tucker shows
It just makes no sense to cover an actual invasion and then start saying shit like but what about the U.S. Mexico border. Is putin allowing illegal aliens in?!
 
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