Shoot The Breeze 3.0

[32andBelow]

Nah fuck that guy. We can all agree. I really don’t know where’s this idea of republicans love puttin came from. Sounds like Reddit propaganda.

The leader of Republican Party saying that what putin is doing is genius.

Also lock him up or nah?

Trump took documents to Mar-a-Lago that are so sensitive they may not be described in public, report says

Some of the classified documents that former President Trump took to Mar-a-Lago are so sensitive they might not be able to be described in public.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[BPM31694]

The leader of Republican Party saying that what putin is doing is genius.

Also lock him up or nah?

Trump took documents to Mar-a-Lago that are so sensitive they may not be described in public, report says

Some of the classified documents that former President Trump took to Mar-a-Lago are so sensitive they might not be able to be described in public.

www.businessinsider.com

Depends on if he did it intentionally or not, right?

 

[32andBelow]

Depends on if he did it intentionally or not, right?

If he intentionally took documents from the White House to his country club?

 

[BPM31694]

If he intentionally took documents from the White House to his country club?

Intent is the mental state required for a crime (knowingly, purposely, recklessly, or negligently are the 4 culpable states of mind).

However, there doesn’t seem to be a criminal provision to the PRA or even a way to enforce it….

This is different from Hillary Clinton not having the requisite “intent” needed for the whole email thing.

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

Director Comey's statement to the press on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State.

www.fbi.gov

 

[32andBelow]

Intent is the mental state required for a crime (knowingly, purposely, recklessly, or negligently are the 4 culpable states of mind).

However, there doesn’t seem to be a criminal provision to the PRA or even a way to enforce it….

This is different from Hillary Clinton not having the requisite “intent” needed for the whole email thing.

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

Director Comey's statement to the press on the FBI’s investigation of Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail system during her time as Secretary of State.

www.fbi.gov

How many security ELMs do you need to take to realize this is a crime

 

[Uglytaco]

The leader of Republican Party saying that what putin is doing is genius.

Also lock him up or nah?

Trump took documents to Mar-a-Lago that are so sensitive they may not be described in public, report says

Some of the classified documents that former President Trump took to Mar-a-Lago are so sensitive they might not be able to be described in public.

www.businessinsider.com

But giving intel to China ok?

Ok dude

 

[Peter Gibbons]

But giving intel to China ok?

Ok dude

This what we call a whattaboutism. where is Homsar when we need him most!

 

[BPM31694]

How many security ELMs do you need to take to realize this is a crime

So what’s the enforcement mechanism for the crime?

Like how do we get trump violated the law to trump goes to prison?

 

[32andBelow]

So what’s the enforcement mechanism for the crime?

Like how do we get trump violated the law to trump goes to prison?

He gets charged and then goes to trial just like any other private citizen

This what we call a whattaboutism. where is Homsar when we need him most!

He’s trying to figure out how he can say Biden is weak even tho he’s leading the entire free world in destroying Russia rn

 

[Homsar]

This what we call a whattaboutism. where is Homsar when we need him most!

I actually typed up a big response to kombucha about how it looks worse and worse every day to call January 6th an insurrection, but I decided not to post it.

He’s trying to figure out how he can say Biden is weak even tho he’s leading the entire free world in destroying Russia rn

Nothing’s more insulting to the Ukrainians fighting and dying for their homeland right now than to say it’s Biden “leading” their resistance. ?

 

[Mr.Tickles]

He gets charged and then goes to trial just like any other private citizen


He’s trying to figure out how he can say Biden is weak even tho he’s leading the entire free world in destroying Russia rn

You misspelled Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The entire free world is watching as Russia pushes again to try and take Kiev. No ones destroying anything.

 

[32andBelow]

You misspelled Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

The entire free world is watching as Russia pushes again to try and take Kiev. No ones destroying anything.

Right all those stingers and javelins and sanctions aren’t helping at all.

People said bidens sanctions were too weak. Now they ar e about as strong as they can possibly be.

At first is was they were attacking cus biden and nato is weak. Now Russia is getting smoked and biden abs nato all of a sudden have nothing to do with it

 

[kombucha23]

I actually typed up a big response to kombucha about how it looks worse and worse every day to call January 6th an insurrection, but I decided not to post it.

If you have it saved or actually have valid info to share, I’d be curious to read it.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Right all those stingers and javelins and sanctions aren’t helping at all.

People said bidens sanctions were too weak. Now they ar e about as strong as they can possibly be.

At first is was they were attacking cus biden and nato is weak. Now Russia is getting smoked and biden abs nato all of a sudden have nothing to do with it

The criticisms they are making of your statement are totally valid.

You can send all the javelins in the world but if nobody is willing to stand and fire them they are worthless, reference Afghanistan. Ukranians out there fighting like lions and you are giving the credit to a 70 something yesr old man that's thousands of miles away giving strongly worded statements.

 

[Homsar]

If you have it saved or actually have valid info to share, I’d be curious to read it.

It was mainly about how it’s getting more ridiculous every day to call January 6th an insurrection, as there’s only 6 indictments for charges relating to that, out of a crowd of roughly 2500 that entered the Capital.

I saw just the other day that the guy who took Pelosi’s podium got sentenced, but it wasn’t for sedition or insurrection, it was for treaspassing:

Johnson pleaded guilty to a criminal count of entering and remained in a restricted building or grounds, admitting that he unlawfully entered the Capitol after witnessing battles with police outside the building

Just another bit falling into place that illustrated what happened was a riot of trespassers, not a coordinated attempt of 2500 people to overthrow the government. Even assuming those 6 get convicted, 6 peoples’ intentions don’t define the intentions of the other 2494.

We heard for years from the left about all the clear evidence and solid proof of Trump’s alleged russian collusion, and the best that Mueller can come up with is obstruction of justice. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m skeptical when this just seems like version 2.0 of that.

 

[Mr.Tickles]

Right all those stingers and javelins and sanctions aren’t helping at all.

People said bidens sanctions were too weak. Now they ar e about as strong as they can possibly be.

At first is was they were attacking cus biden and nato is weak. Now Russia is getting smoked and biden abs nato all of a sudden have nothing to do with it

I never said the west wasn’t providing supplies or that sanctions arent going have a huge impact on Russia. You specifically said Biden was leading the west in destroying Russia.

We’re talking about a war. Using smoked and destroyed have very specific meanings in that context. The west is not smoking or destroying anyone until we are involved in direct conflict with Russia. That’s all there is too it.

 

[kombucha23]

It was mainly about how it’s getting more ridiculous every day to call January 6th an insurrection, as there’s only 6 indictments for charges relating to that, out of a crowd of roughly 2500 that entered the Capital.

I saw just the other day that the guy who took Pelosi’s podium got sentenced, but it wasn’t for sedition or insurrection, it was for treaspassing:


Just another bit falling into place that illustrated what happened was a riot of trespassers, not a coordinated attempt of 2500 people to overthrow the government. Even assuming those 6 get convicted, 6 peoples’ intentions don’t define the intentions of the other 2494.

We heard for years from the left about all the clear evidence and solid proof of Trump’s alleged russian collusion, and the best that Mueller can come up with is obstruction of justice. You’ll have to forgive me if I’m skeptical when this just seems like version 2.0 of that.

I, personally, don’t think that many that stormed the building were part of a plot. More like useful idiots caught up in what was happening, hence so many lower charges. But I do think we will find more players were involved as the Jan 6 panel continues regarding the other end of things (like WH coordination and whatever the militia groups that attended, phone calls between the WH and Congress to delay certification). There’s at least more info to be learned as people are scrutinized. And maybe that includes taco’s FBI thing.

 

[Homsar]

I, personally, don’t think that many that stormed the building were part of a plot. More like useful idiots caught up in what was happening, hence so many lower charges. But I do think we will find more players were involved as the Jan 6 panel continues regarding the other end of things (like WH coordination and whatever the militia groups that attended, phone calls between the WH and Congress to delay certification). There’s at least more info to be learned as people are scrutinized. And maybe that includes taco’s FBI thing.

I just feel that what you say now is a huge backpedal from this post, which is what made me type a response out:

Once again, not really sure where you are pulling the “insurrection” point other than to think you one-upped what I said or prove me wrong when it wasn’t what my statement was about. The GOP position on Jan 6 is so far from what the reality was (“peaceful protest”, not a big deal). There’s proof it was coordinated and that people in Trump’s White House or his circle had knowledge of other bad actors being involved. Coordination occurred between the WH and Congresspeople during and before. Why are all these Trump people participating in the Jan 6 panel and turning over records as they work their way up the chain if it was no biggie? Why is Mitch flipping to call it an insurrection as the cards keep falling? And there’s four hours of documented video of people forcing their way into the Capitol violently, including Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, and yet the GOP position is that it wasn’t a big deal and was just a bunch of good ol’ patriots. Get real.

The GOP position that it wasn’t a big deal is because they view it as a riot, not a coordinated attempt by 2500 people to overthrow the government, and they think no different about a riot in the Capital from riots in Minneapolis, which the left tirelessly shrugged their shoulders at and said were a result of political and personal frustrations. January 6th seems to be no different, a riot from frustrated people that got out of control, and the majority of the charges so far reflect that. I just don’t buy the narrative that, aside from 6 LARPer wannabe bad actors, this was some giant coup attempt. There just isn’t evidence, and questioning it, just like questioning the rationale behind Trump’s Russian collusion accusations for years, labels you a heretic, rather unfairly in my opinion.

[edit] Just look at these not-so-well-aged quotes from Democrat politicians about how Trump totally colluded with Russia. Now that they’ve been swept under the rug after they were wrong, they want me to believe another narrative about January 6th? Fool me once, shame on me…

We’re talking about a war. Using smoked and destroyed have very specific meanings in that context. The west is not smoking or destroying anyone until we are involved in direct conflict with Russia. That’s all there is too it.

We really all need to pitch in and buy 32 a dictionary for Christmas this year, because this isn’t the first time he doesn’t know what words mean.

 

[kombucha23]

I just feel that what you say now is a huge backpedal from this post, which is what made me type a response out:.

That’s more me not being clear than a backpedal. I don’t think 2500 people stormed the Capitol in a massive coordinated attack at its face value. I think there are major players in what happened Jan 6 that helped get people riled up and willing to breach the Capitol, but it wasn’t a 2500 person planned attack in that sense. I don’t think my two positions disagree.

I think there is more to be learned from higher positions of power in what occurred (what the WH/others knew and wanted to occur with re: to vote certification and delays), but the charges for the “useful idiots” reflect what level of scheming they did (aka not much, just rioted as you say).

 

[Homsar]

That’s more me not being clear than a backpedal. I don’t think 2500 people stormed the Capitol in a massive coordinated attack at its face value. I think there are major players in what happened Jan 6 that helped get people riled up and willing to breach the Capitol, but it wasn’t a 2500 person planned attack in that sense. I don’t think my two positions disagree.

I think there is more to be learned from higher positions of power in what occurred (what the WH/others knew and wanted to occur with re: to vote certification and delays), but the charges for the “useful idiots” reflect what level of scheming they did (aka not much, just rioted as you say).

I just see you and other people unabashedly describe the events that day as an insurrection, yet the facts show evidence of only 6 out of 2500 people participated in anything having to do with that. Why should the actions of 6 define the actions of the entire 2500?