You just train all the time and you get all the traffic that whatever facility you are at gets. If guys are blowing through hours without seeing enough then raise the target hours. You can not tell me you won’t get better from training every day.
What’re you going to get better at when most of your training time sitting on position? And I’m not saying low levels are slow enough where they don’t have traffic to train you every day, it’s just not consistent enough and people end up waisting hours because they’re getting their 3 hrs per day and most of it is sitting there doing nothing. That’s actually part of the reason the tower sim thing was worked into the FAA Reauth bill was because of the NTI.
Then raise the hours. Practicing small situations when it’s slow makes them easy to execute when its busy.
Sure, in theory. I've witnessed it countless times where you go over a scenario ad nauseam while rotting on position with no traffic and when it actually happens live they act like it's completely foreign and you didn't go over that exact thing a million times.
Then they aren’t good. Lol.
That’s what the NAS wide tower sim mandate is for because they won’t change that part of the NTI.
Won't disagree with ya there hah.
Or at some places it's 15 hours a week if no positions, 15 hours a week if you have one or more positions. Why? Because fuck you, that's why.
Right, but they aren't. The problem with saying "it's a goal, not a mandate" is that we have been saying that. Repeatedly. For multiple years. And guess what management does? They treat it like a mandate because it's an easily quantifiable metric that their management can point to and say "You only averaged 14+50 this week, tsk tsk, no bonus for you."
Why don’t they just schedule the trainees on straight shifts then. Anyways the hours system is pointless. Just go to days or time based or just if they keep getting better or not.
Also, the goal is not to just raise hours and have trainees take even longer to attain certification. That’s why both sides are looking at different measures such as the TSS mandate that avoid raising target hours. That wouldn’t be a good thing for management or NATCA.
I’m all for a training crew so we could schedule trainees with their training team on straight shifts along with benefitting from peak traffic hours.
Ok but how dumb is having people sit around and do nothing. If you are at work you should train. Some of the craziest shit ever happens when it’s slow. Also if you just train more hours in the same amount of time nothing is getting delayed.
Crazy how a sim solves that issue, or studying, or statics, or Q&A.
Our facility raised its training hours when NTI started. Interestingly, our actual time in training average didn't change. Our facility was doing a good job getting people training when there was traffic. Now we just have people training on nothing, and trainers are getting burnt out.
I think the sweet spot is to just have a massive range. Don’t hold up people who are good but make it so people who need more time can train 5 hours a day for a year and see if they can do it
Oh you can’t push traffic like a 10 year veteran controller after only 140 hours of training at the sector despite being safe? Bye and good luck at whatever tower you end up at!
Louder for the scammers in the back!
