Currency while on PPL

[the inquirer]

Nevertheless, it is imperative that you prioritize obtaining your currency.

Priorities…..
Another illustration:
Coworker receives sick letter for banging on every OT because spouse is also a shift worker. They have little kids. Manager tells coworker he got his priorities wrong. Said manager is divorced and has prioritized work over husband and kids.

 

[But_I_Had_Visual]

Priorities…..
Another illustration:
Coworker receives sick letter for banging on every OT because spouse is also a shift worker. They have little kids. Manager tells coworker he got his priorities wrong. Said manager is divorced and has prioritized work over husband and kids.

Hey that sounds like a certain failed evp candidate… no wonder managers and NATCA get along so well.

 

[123456]

Saw the PRoC itself. Just so everyone can see full context here, it reads verbatim:

“For January, you allowed your operational currency to lapse. You only logged 7+08 hours for tower and 6+38 hours for radar, while your monthly requirement is 8 hours on each position. Since December, you have been on paid parental leave with the understanding that you would work on Sundays to maintain your operational currency.

I recognize that you were on approved sick leave for one of those Sundays, which was beyond your control. Nevertheless, it is imperative that you prioritize obtaining your currency. Please work diligently with the supervisor on duty or other controllers to emphasize the importance of your time on position while at the facility. My expectation for February is that you will seize every opportunity to achieve your currency before the end of the month.“

Allow me to translate and say what the OS is really saying.

This MFer asked me to work Sunday's so he “doesn't lose his currency”, we all know he doesn't want to lose Sunday pay. I stuck my neck out for him and allowed it and he doesn't respect me enough to hold up his end of the agreement.

You were at work for 24 hours and only got 15 hours of time while making 25% more. The agreement was that you would maintain currency.

Either take your ppl in full and enjoy the time with baby, or fulfill your duties.

Also, a proc for this is dumb. Im sure you’re an adult and a simple reminder would work.

 

[SquawkHijack]

Allow me to translate and say what the OS is really saying.

This MFer asked me to work Sunday's so he “doesn't lose his currency”, we all know he doesn't want to lose Sunday pay. I stuck my neck out for him and allowed it and he doesn't respect me enough to hold up his end of the agreement.

You were at work for 24 hours and only got 15 hours of time while making 25% more. The agreement was that you would maintain currency.

Either take your ppl in full and enjoy the time with baby, or fulfill your duties.

Also, a proc for this is dumb. Im sure you’re an adult and a simple reminder would work.

Again, they agreed to it. They should’ve understood that this could happen. It was and still is my intention to achieve my currency for the rest of my PPL, but shit happens. As for time on position vs time worked, tell it to whoever was running those shifts, that’s normal at my facility, pal. Show me where any of this is actually my problem.

You sound like some ate-up white-book boomer that has a chip on their shoulder because you didn’t miss a day of work your entire 25-30yr career.

 

[123456]

Again, they agreed to it. They should’ve understood that this could happen. Show me where any of this is actually my problem.

They were being kind and allowing you to continue earning Sunday pay while being no benefit to the facility. Either take all of your ppl at one time, or keep your currency, stop with the one foot in one foot out thing. You are adding work for the OS having to recert you and monitor your time.

But let me reiterate, a proc for this is dumb.

 

[SquawkHijack]

They were being kind and allowing you to continue earning Sunday pay while being no benefit to the facility. Either take all of your ppl at one time, or keep your currency, stop with the one foot in one foot out thing. You are adding work for the OS having to recert you and monitor your time.

So if I took PPL consecutively, I would’ve been so much more of a benefit to my facility? Lmao this isn’t the flex you think this is.

And another OS gladly re-certed me the very next week. Again, where’s the big deal or where it says any of this is my problem? I took sick leave one (1) day to care for my family and this is clearly some sort of retaliation for that. Frankly, this stuff is an OS’s job, whether it’s re-certing me or running the operation to ensure my currency among other things are met. Thanks for outing yourself as a miserable OS lmao.

 

[123456]

Again, they agreed to it. They should’ve understood that this could happen. It was and still is my intention to achieve my currency for the rest of my PPL, but shit happens. As for time on position vs time worked, tell it to whoever was running those shifts, that’s normal at my facility, pal. Show me where any of this is actually my problem.

You sound like some ate-up white-book boomer that has a chip on their shoulder because you didn’t miss a day of work your entire 25-30yr career.

your facility run long breaks, fine, but you agreed you would maintain currency so its on YOU to say you need time and stay on position.

You can fight it, but all you are doing is preventing anyone behind you from getting the sweetheart deal you got because now that OS dont trust you guys

 

[SquawkHijack]

your facility run long breaks, fine, but you agreed you would maintain currency so its on YOU to say you need time and stay on position.

Sure, and I would do that if my time looks tight, but I had unforeseen circumstances that caused me to not be able to come in the last day and not get currency. You can try to spin it against me 100 different ways. But none of this is on me. You’re telling me to put my job ahead of my sick family… wow you’re really something.

 

[123456]

So if I took PPL consecutively, I would’ve been so much more of a benefit to my facility? Lmao this isn’t the flex you think this is.

And another OS gladly re-certed me the very next week. Again, where’s the big deal or where it says any of this is my problem? I took sick leave one (1) day to care for my family and this is clearly some sort of retaliation for that. Frankly, this stuff is an OS’s job, whether it’s re-certing me or running the operation to ensure my currency among other things are met. Thanks for outing yourself as a miserable OS lmao.

If you take it consecutively, you become normal sooner. Everyone hates the sprinkled ppl guy, even fellow CPCs, its annoying.

I am not a miserable OS. I have respectable CPCs that do their job so life is good.

Sure, and I would do that if my time looks tight, but I had unforeseen circumstances that caused me to not be able to come in the last day and not get currency. You can try to spin it against me 100 different ways. But none of this is on me. You’re telling me to put my job ahead of my sick family… wow you’re really something.

Im not saying youre wrong, just providing another perspective. Take care of your family. I bet next month you get all your time in 3 weeks to avoid this situation because deep down you know whats right.

 

[SquawkHijack]

If you take it consecutively, you become normal sooner. Everyone hates the sprinkled ppl guy, even fellow CPCs, its annoying.

I am not a miserable OS. I have respectable CPCs that do their job so life is good.

Absolutely nobody is mad about me taking non-consecutive PPL except you, my guy lmao. God forbid someone has to take care of their family and causes your wittle spreadsheet to have a wittle mark on it so it’s not all squeaky clean for your district plebs. You’re an absolute joke and I pity any “respectable CPC” that has to endure working for you. Go yell at somebody for turning down OT because they want to be with their family now, go on.

 

[22papa]

If you take it consecutively, you become normal sooner. Everyone hates the sprinkled ppl guy, even fellow CPCs, its annoying.

I am not a miserable OS. I have respectable CPCs that do their job so life is good.

Not everyone is as miserable of a person as you are. I have no problem with any of my fellow CPCs “sprinkling” PPL wherever they want. I’m actually happy for them that their life is better and one day the roles will be reversed where I’m on PPL and they are working.

Either way, I show up to work and talk to the planes in front of me however the sup wants to run the shift and at the end of the day I unplug and go home just the same. It’s actually possible to not hate everything about your life every day.

 

[SquawkHijack]

Im not saying youre wrong, just providing another perspective. Take care of your family. I bet next month you get all your time in 3 weeks to avoid this situation because deep down you know whats right.

What’s right was taking care of my family, plot twist, the OS that re-certed me event said I did the right thing. Cope harder because I have news for you, you’re just another number to the agency just like the rest of us. You can be a management blow-hard all you want, but in the end, you retire, lose your medical or whatever else can happen and they’ll just put out another bid for someone else to replace you. Food for thought.

And I’m going to keep doing what I’m doing because I don’t run the operation. It’s not my job to manifest over the time I get on position, again, this isn’t a “sweetheart deal” as you state. This is an agreement, my OM or ATM could’ve very well denied my request to work Sundays. Their issue not mine and they (and you) just can’t stand it that it’s life and things can happen.

 

[Geeare27]

What a fuckin goober lol

 

[123456]

This always comes up when leave is critiqued, the os is only documenting something because the cps complained to him about you, just ask.

Thats the last thing ill say, gotta go be miserable and watch the super bowl with my family and 7 of my cpcs.

 

[jdatc]

A decade plus ago, I was teaching in the lab for 4 weeks straight. I had some overtime’s, but wasn’t going to get my currency.

My supervisor came down and told me I could come up on my break from running problems and debriefing to make sure I got my currency.

I told him to fuck right off and he could give me an over the shoulder. I wasn’t giving up my breaks for that shit.

He was the same supervisor that tried to hassle me over taking an hour of sick leave one day and deny it, and then when I got there sent me to do a CBI since we weren’t busy.

There are many bad supervisors in the NAS. I am fortunate that currently I have a lot of decent ones.

That bad supervisor; he’s dead now. Cancer.

Get yourself checked and don’t put the job first being a ‘hero’ to the operation.

 

[Somenewguy]

What’s right was taking care of my family, plot twist, the OS that re-certed me event said I did the right thing. Cope harder because I have news for you, you’re just another number to the agency just like the rest of us. You can be a management blow-hard all you want, but in the end, you retire, lose your medical or whatever else can happen and they’ll just put out another bid for someone else to replace you. Food for thought.

And I’m going to keep doing what I’m doing because I don’t run the operation. It’s not my job to manifest over the time I get on position, again, this isn’t a “sweetheart deal” as you state. This is an agreement, my OM or ATM could’ve very well denied my request to work Sundays. Their issue not mine and they (and you) just can’t stand it that it’s life and things can happen.

The next person who wants intermittent PPL at your facility will probably be denied because you're kind of a baby. You're getting really fired up about being a victim when youre being paid to not do anything.

 

[SquawkHijack]

The next person who wants intermittent PPL at your facility will probably be denied because you're kind of a baby. You're getting really fired up about being a victim when youre being paid to not do anything.

I’m a baby because they’re discriminating for me being on FMLA that they approved? Or was it for me having to take care of my family? Mind you, we’ve had two people who lost their medical and were down for several months. You gonna say they should’ve gotten PRoCs too? Let’s have some accountability for managers making big-boy manager decisions here.

This always comes up when leave is critiqued, the os is only documenting something because the cps complained to him about you, just ask.

Thats the last thing I’ll say, gotta go be miserable and watch the super bowl with my family and 7 of my cpcs.

Gotta go watch the Super Bowl < Gotta go monitor webscheduler all night for sick leave requests so you can fire off paperwork tomorrow like a good little boy

 

[Somenewguy]

I’m a baby because they’re discriminating for me being on FMLA that they approved? Or was it for me having to take care of my family? Mind you, we’ve had two people who lost their medical and were down for several months. You gonna say they should’ve gotten PRoCs too? Let’s have some accountability for managers making big-boy manager decisions here.

Yes. Nobody is discriminating against you. They accommodated your request and you didn't keep up your side of the bargain which is lame. You sound like the type of dude to file for a missed lunch working 5 on 10 off covid schedule.

Your supe is also acting like a baby by giving you a PRoC instead of just saying "dude that's not cool, don't do that again".

I'm not saying your supe is in the right, I'm saying you're making a big deal out of nothing.

 

[Wizard]

Dude comes in and spends half his shift on break and complains

 

[SquawkHijack]

Yes. Nobody is discriminating against you. They accommodated your request and you didn't keep up your side of the bargain which is lame. You sound like the type of dude to file for a missed lunch working 5 on 10 off covid schedule.

Your supe is also acting like a baby by giving you a PRoC instead of just saying "dude that's not cool, don't do that again".

I'm not saying your supe is in the right, I'm saying you're making a big deal out of nothing.

Fair enough, but again I banged out to take care of my wife and newborn. It wasn’t like I was up too late with the boys the night before or something to that effect. You’re right, we do have an agreement for me to come in once a week and I aim to keep it, but I can’t help it when shit happens because I’m a husband and a dad. Hell, that was even acknowledged in my PRoC. People have to take sick leave sometimes, whether they want to or not. You and everyone else in this culture of assuming everyone abuses sick leave is lame.