Media Now Pushing for Privatization

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Here’s the first article I’ve seen on privatization, the agenda to make this happen is becoming more clear. Anyone else seen anything similar?

EDIT: there is a paywall in the article linked at bottom, but I’ll copy/paste the most in depth part of it.

“Air-traffic control is a 24/7 high-tech operation trapped inside a regulatory agency,” Dorothy Robyn writes. The Federal Aviation Administration is bound by stultifying federal rules and sees Congress, not the public, as its customer. The Real Problem With the FAA

Following January’s deadly midair collision over Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, in which air-traffic control may have been a factor, and amid an ongoing crisis at Newark Liberty International Airport, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy called for investing tens of billions of dollars to build a “brand new air traffic control system” over the next three years.

“Throwing money at the problem has some merit, given the dire condition of the ATC system,” Robyn writes. But the Trump administration’s “proposal is flawed in a host of ways, the most egregious of which is that it preserves the current ATC-governance structure. Blue-ribbon commissions and independent experts have long argued that this structure is the underlying source of our nation’s ATC problems.”

“Air-traffic control is not inherently a governmental function,” Robyn continues. “Precisely because of the operational nature of air-traffic control, in fact, the federal government is poorly suited to run the system.” Budget rules, for instance, slow the pace of technological deployment; new ATC systems might be obsolete by the time they are fully fielded. The FAA also suffers from political interference—for instance, maintaining costly legacy systems in part to accommodate powerful users whose aircraft are not equipped to operate updated technology. And the FAA both operates and regulates the air-traffic-control system, creating “a clear conflict of interest.”

Attempts to corporatize air-traffic control have failed, “primarily because of pushback from private pilots and corporate-jet owners, who pay almost nothing to use the ATC system,” Robyn writes. In 2018, a House bill preserved the fee structure that shifts $1 billion or more a year in costs from one-percenters in their $65 million Gulfstreams to the crowded passengers in coach.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world has moved in a very different direction, Robyn continues.

 
Damn. When someone that worked in the Clinton and Obama Administrations comes out and basically calls for privatization of ATC in a publication with left-leaning writers and owned by someone that is a large and influential supporter of left-leaning causes and politicians, well, where there's smoke......
 
This is what happens when you have a labor union that refuses to drive the narrative and only focuses on equipment and protecting A114 positions.

Though it’s funny how NATCA has been on a propaganda campaign this week citing all the interviews ND has done. Interviews where he literally says nothing of value and sounds more like an FAA spokesperson than the head of the union.
 
Even Al Gore was pro privatization in the 90s. This has always been the "I'm the smart government democrat" position. Right now we are full circle back at the point of editorialists trying to get actually smart people to put together plans for privatization. The immediate threat is nothing. There is no lobby push and the biggest republican aviation guy currently in Congress is anti privatization. And the FAA administrator is from a lobby that is currently opposed to privatization.
 
I saw this a couple days ago and it is complete bullshit. The irony is that Clinton defined air traffic as an inherently governmental function and now that Trump is trying to claim almost every department is vital to national security. Can't have it both ways.
 
This is what happens when you have a labor union that refuses to drive the narrative and only focuses on equipment and protecting A114 positions.

Though it’s funny how NATCA has been on a propaganda campaign this week citing all the interviews ND has done. Interviews where he literally says nothing of value and sounds more like an FAA spokesperson than the head of the union.
It's also "funny" when you make unnecessary disparaging comments when our "labor union" you referred to has also been busy protecting our retirements.
 
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If I had to make a political prediction about privatization:

No immediate threat. And counter-intuitively, i believe the next actual privatization threat will probably come from a Democrat that tries to differentiate themselves from the Trump admins guaranteed failure on the ATC front. And thats not a dig at Trump (even though I think his admin is a bunch of dumbfucks), no one is going to be able to get results in the short term.


Worst case prediction:

The call to just "do something" gets louder and rather then work out some sensible policy, they just sell us to the lowest bidder, Flight service style, and hope AI bails everything out.
 
If I had to make a political prediction about privatization:

No immediate threat. And counter-intuitively, i believe the next actual privatization threat will probably come from a Democrat that tries to differentiate themselves from the Trump admins guaranteed failure on the ATC front. And thats not a dig at Trump (even though I think his admin is a bunch of dumbfucks), no one is going to be able to get results in the short term.


Worst case prediction:

The call to just "do something" gets louder and rather then work out some sensible policy, they just sell us to the lowest bidder, Flight service style, and hope AI bails everything out.
Any dem that tries to run on privatization of any government service should and would be crucified for such a position. Dems trying to appeal to Republicans is a fruitless endeavor
 
Your lack of intelligence is on full display if you think NATCA “saved” our retirement. All they did was blast out emails begging everyone to email/call their Congressmen and Senators and ask them to exclude us.
We got excluded beucawe it is only us, federal law enforcement, firefighters and nuclear curriers who have the mandatory retirement ages. They didn’t want to screw federal law enforcement, and it would have looked too bad to protect them but not us since it’s the same retirement category, so we got saved along with them.
 
We got excluded beucawe it is only us, federal law enforcement, firefighters and nuclear curriers who have the mandatory retirement ages. They didn’t want to screw federal law enforcement, and it would have looked too bad to protect them but not us since it’s the same retirement category, so we got saved along with them.
Yes, and with air traffic receiving so much media coverage recently, it would have been bad politics for us not to be excluded. Anyone that gives NATCA credit for “saving” our retirement is a fucking gullible idiot.
 
It's also "funny" when you make unnecessary disparaging comments when our "labor union" you referred to has also been busy protecting our retirements.
Every single federal union has been balls deep in protecting retirements and it looks like high three is the way it is for everyone if I’m not mistaken, they backed off the high five. To try and argue the minuscule air traffic controllers. Union played a decisive role is a bit silly.
 
Here’s the first article I’ve seen on privatization, the agenda to make this happen is becoming more clear. Anyone else seen anything similar?

EDIT: there is a paywall in the article linked at bottom, but I’ll copy/paste the most in depth part of it.

“Air-traffic control is a 24/7 high-tech operation trapped inside a regulatory agency,” Dorothy Robyn writes. The Federal Aviation Administration is bound by stultifying federal rules and sees Congress, not the public, as its customer. The Real Problem With the FAA

Following January’s deadly midair collision over Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, in which air-traffic control may have been a factor, and amid an ongoing crisis at Newark Liberty International Airport, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy called for investing tens of billions of dollars to build a “brand new air traffic control system” over the next three years.

“Throwing money at the problem has some merit, given the dire condition of the ATC system,” Robyn writes. But the Trump administration’s “proposal is flawed in a host of ways, the most egregious of which is that it preserves the current ATC-governance structure. Blue-ribbon commissions and independent experts have long argued that this structure is the underlying source of our nation’s ATC problems.”

“Air-traffic control is not inherently a governmental function,” Robyn continues. “Precisely because of the operational nature of air-traffic control, in fact, the federal government is poorly suited to run the system.” Budget rules, for instance, slow the pace of technological deployment; new ATC systems might be obsolete by the time they are fully fielded. The FAA also suffers from political interference—for instance, maintaining costly legacy systems in part to accommodate powerful users whose aircraft are not equipped to operate updated technology. And the FAA both operates and regulates the air-traffic-control system, creating “a clear conflict of interest.”

Attempts to corporatize air-traffic control have failed, “primarily because of pushback from private pilots and corporate-jet owners, who pay almost nothing to use the ATC system,” Robyn writes. In 2018, a House bill preserved the fee structure that shifts $1 billion or more a year in costs from one-percenters in their $65 million Gulfstreams to the crowded passengers in coach.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world has moved in a very different direction, Robyn continues.

Pretty much every day or at least every other day for the past few weeks, there’s been stuff in the Wall Street Journal, pushing for private conversation or framing the shortcomings of the system in such a way that privatization, although not stated is kind of heavily implied to be the only answer
 
If you believe in rinaldi consulting and FATS then I’d say they already are.
But we 'fired' rinaldi. Then Tim Arel quit. Then rinaldi and tim (and navcanada etc) were all at some event together celebrating privitization on linkedin. Im sure the a114 and neb aren't gunning for a private sector permanent position with better pay and permanent telecommuting
 
But we 'fired' rinaldi. Then Tim Arel quit. Then rinaldi and tim (and navcanada etc) were all at some event together celebrating privitization on linkedin. Im sure the a114 and neb aren't gunning for a private sector permanent position with better pay and permanent telecommuting
Yah they seem to talk a lot about this
 
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