Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

So I got a hold of the person who requested my VA treatment records and apparently they did not see or receive my email from last week that I sent with my records attached. So if you’re questioning checking in on something you probably should just go ahead and do so.
 
Has anyone that scored in the qualified band received a tol? I'm still hoping I'll get one but I'm also thinking that I need to start preparing for the next announcement. I claimed veterans preference and scored in the qualified band, trying to see why I didn't get a tol/see what I can do to make sure I get one in the future.
 
Thatguyfive said:
Has anyone that scored in the qualified band received a tol? I'm still hoping I'll get one but I'm also thinking that I need to start preparing for the next announcement. I claimed veterans preference and scored in the qualified band, trying to see why I didn't get a tol/see what I can do to make sure I get one in the future.
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Ok, I am speaking from the same amount of experience as you, but this is what I have gathered:
The referred applicants were broken into three pools: best qualified, well qualified, and qualified. I know earlier this week someone who was in the “best qualified” had yet to receive a TOL. Not sure if that means there were a ton of best qualified candidates, or if they just haven’t finished sending them out. Only HR knows at this point and they aren’t sharing their secrets.
Vet pref in and of itself isn’t going to guarantee a TOL. It can help push you into the “best qualified” pool instead of “well qualified” but if your score was a 65 and the point bump is why you were referred(because it raised your score above 70), that isn’t going to make much of a difference in the selection process.
It’s why I wish they would be more clear and transparent on what your score was. That way if it didn’t work out this bid, you would know how far off you were before going through the whole process again.
Whatever the outcome, best of luck to you, and thanks for your service.
 
Has anyone completed their drug test BEFORE going to the medical exam? The email says it needs to be completed within 5 business days of medical, but doesn’t specify if it has to be before or after.
 
So I took the MMPI on the 27th. The furthest I have seen get a FOL/ academy date was the 26th. Has anyone on the 27th gotten a academy date ? I called HR and KH told me all they was waiting on was my medical to clear. (Medical includes MMPI with the drug/physical he told me )
 
NN9419 said:
Has anyone completed their drug test BEFORE going to the medical exam? The email says it needs to be completed within 5 business days of medical, but doesn’t specify if it has to be before or after.
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It doesn't matter what you take first or second. As long as they're all done within 5 days.
 
jballen004 Tubadude2 said:
Ok, I am speaking from the same amount of experience as you, but this is what I have gathered:
The referred applicants were broken into three pools: best qualified, well qualified, and qualified. I know earlier this week someone who was in the “best qualified” had yet to receive a TOL. Not sure if that means there were a ton of best qualified candidates, or if they just haven’t finished sending them out. Only HR knows at this point and they aren’t sharing their secrets.
Vet pref in and of itself isn’t going to guarantee a TOL. It can help push you into the “best qualified” pool instead of “well qualified” but if your score was a 65 and the point bump is why you were referred(because it raised your score above 70), that isn’t going to make much of a difference in the selection process.
It’s why I wish they would be more clear and transparent on what your score was. That way if it didn’t work out this bid, you would know how far off you were before going through the whole process again.
Whatever the outcome, best of luck to you, and thanks for your service.
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Wait; how are you even supposed to know which tier you're in?
 
F5awp said:
Wait; how are you even supposed to know which tier you're in?
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Yeah, this is new. They used to closely guard that information, and I think they were actually supposed to note something in your file if they accidentally let your score band slip. Based on how many people have been calling and getting their bands, it seems like some policy has changed at HR, or someone’s brand new in their office.
 
squawkIFR said:
You aren't supposed to know and frankly it doesn't matter. If you don't get a TOL then you didn't score high enough.
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I would disagree that it doesn’t matter if I have additional bids I’m eligible to apply for. If I have vet preference and I didn’t get a TOL, knowing if my score was a 70 vs an 89 will probably play into if I waste my time with this process again
 
I was informed by my HR POC that I won’t know if I passed the MMPI or not till my medical file was reviewed. However, my medical POC informed me that I cleared the MMPI and the drug test. My medical exam was done on 02/26 and is currently pending review with the flight surgeon.
 
jballen004 Tubadude2 said:
I would disagree that it doesn’t matter if I have additional bids I’m eligible to apply for. If I have vet preference and I didn’t get a TOL, knowing if my score was a 70 vs an 89 will probably play into if I waste my time with this process again
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Really, it's not a waste of time anytime because the pool of applicants change every year. Some years may have a higher average than others. So if you got referred, and this is still something you're interested in, then it's worth a shot to apply again.

Also, if it is still the same process they have to maintain a percentage from both pool 1 and pool 2 for TOL's. If there was a ton of "best qualified" in pool 1 and you're pool 1 "best qualified", but didn't receive a TOL you were just behind the guys that did receive one but missed the last ticket passed out.
 
jballen004 Tubadude2 said:
I would disagree that it doesn’t matter if I have additional bids I’m eligible to apply for. If I have vet preference and I didn’t get a TOL, knowing if my score was a 70 vs an 89 will probably play into if I waste my time with this process again
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Tangent: If you are 10pt and are well qualified, the hiring agency is required to submit the reason in writing to OPM, and allow you the ability to respond, which then gets ruled on. If you have 10pts and aren't getting TOL or notification of non-selection, it's because of the score.
 
MJ said:
Tangent: If you are 10pt and are well qualified, the hiring agency is required to submit the reason in writing to OPM, and allow you the ability to respond, which then gets ruled on. If you have 10pts and aren't getting TOL or notification of non-selection, it's because of the score.
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Okay this is the first I've heard of a 10pt and an OPM. Do you mind explaining what those mean?
 

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