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GTFO. There is never a place for that.
Well if trainees can claim loss of a pay raise they were never guaranteed to have then I'm going to claim that I should've been picked up for MCO and someone owes me money.

Disclaimer: I don't actually believe I was legit screwed out of a spot and that I missed out on level 9 raises.
 
Well if trainees can claim loss of a pay raise they were never guaranteed to have then I'm going to claim that I should've been picked up for MCO and someone owes me money.

Disclaimer: I don't actually believe I was legit screwed out of a spot and that I missed out on level 9 raises.
It’s just annoying to have a performance base contract when you can’t even train 2/3 of the time. I’ve been allowed to train for 5 months of my 2.5 year ATC career so far.
 
Sounds like they "fixed the glitch"

maybe a new entitled "1440" will emerge from this, making tens of thousands of dollars more than everyone else w yearly multipliers
 
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It’s just annoying to have a performance base contract when you can’t even train 2/3 of the time. I’ve been allowed to train for 5 months of my 2.5 year ATC career so far.
You'll be fine, I remember getting less than 10 hours of training a month at a level 5 up/down.
 
Election year
No shit Sherlock, but why? How tf is wearing a mask in Walmart during a pandemic thats killed like what 130k Americans a political issue? So you are willing to get the full dong in the wind body scan and a friendly nut pat down to get on an airplane because of a terror attack 20 years ago but won't wear a mask for an ongoing pandemic? Tell me how that makes sense.

I'm not saying it should be a law but what happened to jusy doing the right thing to the best of your ability and within reason for society?
 
Let me guess now you have a high and mighty opinion of yourself at a big facility where the real controllers work?
Nope. Just perspective. Nobody gives a fuck about your experience at your level 5. Not indication of ability or competency, just understand that you really have no clue what you’re talking about and what training is or isn’t like at a Z or high level facility.

You’re arguing with people who think they are getting “screwed” right now by working 5/10, 5/5 or 1/119.
Hence why we had enough complainers about how “they didn’t bid this schedule, and aren’t getting regular Sunday or night diff, and want their bid leave”. So here we go back to 5/2, good job dumbasses.
 
Nope. Just perspective. Nobody gives a fuck about your experience at your level 5. Not indication of ability or competency, just understand that you really have no clue what you’re talking about and what training is or isn’t like at a Z or high level facility.
You might want to go back and actually read what I posted if anything I was trying to sympathize with the situation he's in I know what it's like to sit back and want to train but can't.
Since your reading comprehension is so good why don't you go back through my post and show me where I said I know anything about the training program of a high level facility or a Z.

But if it validates your status as a keyboard warrior, go ahead and try to make me feel small again it really doesn't bother me.
 
You might want to go back and actually read what I posted if anything I was trying to sympathize with the situation he's in I know what it's like to sit back and want to train but can't.
Since your reading comprehension is so good why don't you go back through my post and show me where I said I know anything about the training program of a high level facility or a Z.

But if it validates your status as a keyboard warrior, go ahead and try to make me feel small again it really doesn't bother me.
“You’ll be fine, I remember getting less than 10 hours a month at my level 5 up/down”

sounds like complete ignorance of his situation dealing with a Z training program, interjected with govt shutdown, and now this, all while being completely disregarded by your 10 hours a month BS. You don’t understand how many hurdles and hoops there are all along the process, not just relating to OJT hours.
This following stupid comments about how trainees get to claim back pay.
 
“You’ll be fine, I remember getting less than 10 hours a month at my level 5 up/down”

sounds like complete ignorance of his situation dealing with a Z training program, interjected with govt shutdown, and now this, all while being completely disregarded by your 10 hours a month BS. You don’t understand how many hurdles and hoops there are all along the process, not just relating to OJT hours.
This following stupid comments about how trainees get to claim back pay.

So I'm guessing you couldn't anything that said I claim to have knowledge of a high level facility or a Z's training program?

You don't know me so stop pretending like you have first hand knowledge or what I may or may not know.

Training delays compounding by the shutdown, Covid, incompetent management effect all facilities types not just the Core30.

I look forward to you telling me more about myself in your next post.
 
Still haven’t seen a direct answer from the anti training/iT’s AbOuT sAfEtY, i DoNt WaNnA dIe crowd as to what the exit plan to all this is. Like it’s been mentioned time and time again, Corona is likely to never completely going away, or at least not for a very long time. Is your solution to just never bring trainees back ever?
 
Still haven’t seen a direct answer from the anti training/iT’s AbOuT sAfEtY, i DoNt WaNnA dIe crowd as to what the exit plan to all this is. Like it’s been mentioned time and time again, Corona is likely to never completely going away, or at least not for a very long time. Is your solution to just never bring trainees back ever?

Here's your direct answer then big boy

Every other pandemic throughout history tapered off, this one will too. They'll come back when the traffic is high enough to justify the risk, or the risk is low enough to justify bringing people back for low traffic

I feel like I've posted this before

Cuz I have

But some people have the reading comprehension and reasoning of a glazed donut

A really tasty one tho

Bueller?
 
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