Shoot The Breeze

[CF]

You're going to be real upset when you find out that a ton of lawyers, judges and their like (including the pilots that fly and the air traffic controllers around you) donate to pro constitutional rights organizations.

Wow I’m so upset. I don’t know what I’ll do now that I know this.

 

[Mike Kilo]

How bough dipping after you shot someone for “self defense” it’s funny how I don’t walk around with an ar15 and I don’t get in these scenarios. WEIRD.

It’s funny how I don’t walk around looting and rioting and assaulting people. See how that works?

 

[Horny4Vectors]

You talking commute time? Can’t disclose that information either.

Door to door in my car. Podcasts and audible were my friend.

 

[Shikaka]

...some of you guys haven't been shot at enough...also GOA 4 Lyfe!?!?

 

[32andBelow]

There’s a clear line between legal and illegal. The 2A debate is just where shall the line be drawn. It’s current below nukes and ICBMs. Some think it should be below AR15s

 

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Some think it should be below AR15s

what some think is irrelevant. the constitution speaks for itself.

 

[32andBelow]

what some think is irrelevant. the constitution speaks for itself.

But there is obviously a drawn line. You can’t buy a scud missile.

 

[CF]

what some think is irrelevant. the constitution speaks for itself.

Does the constitution mention AR15s?

 

[Shikaka]

Does the constitution mention AR15s?

Nope, just to keep and bear arms, where's the queue for the LAVs and Bradleys?

 

[CaptainObvious]

But there is obviously a drawn line. You can’t buy a scud missile.

You can if you pay enough

 

[CF]

Nope, just to keep and bear arms, where's the queue for the LAVs and Bradleys?

The constitution also promises free speech and religion but I can’t stand outside your house with a megaphone and promote the godhood of large white bats at midnight.

I’m not against guns or even ARs I just think that blindly reading(not sure how that’s possible) the constitution and assuming what the founders meant is strange. Trying to directly take what they were imagining and applying it today is silly. You have to be able to find a balance. I don’t have the answers but I also don’t think there’s really a purpose in a modern civilization for a guy to walk down the street with a high powered rifle.

 

[GulfCharlie]

But there is obviously a drawn line. You can’t buy a scud missile.

You technically can... you just have to know where.

The constitution also promises free speech and religion but I can’t stand outside your house with a megaphone and promote the godhood of large white bats at midnight.

I’m not against guns or even ARs I just think that blindly reading(not sure how that’s possible) the constitution and assuming what the founders meant is strange. Trying to directly take what they were imagining and applying it today is silly. You have to be able to find a balance. I don’t have the answers but I also don’t think there’s really a purpose in a modern civilization for a guy to walk down the street with a high powered rifle.

One should theoretically take things in the spirit with which they were written, again theoretically. More to the point I shall bring up an interesting comparison, Poll Tax. Quite a few individuals believe that we should tax ammunition and firearms into oblivion, while not technically making them illegal to own it would make it very costly where "theoretically" only those that afford them would have possession. Any State/Government ID (Drivers License, the ID that is issued to prove who you are that is not a Drivers License)/Passport, you name it you have to pay for correct? Is this in itself not a poll tax or a barrier for an individual to cast a vote? Why should a vote be locked behind $25 to obtain a piece identifying you and keep you from voting? A vote is as powerful as a bullet and sometimes even more so, but the spirit of it is to allow you to choose how to change things in a democratic form.

Now obviously I am playing devils advocate with the above discussion and I hope people interpret this in the spirit it is intended, but attempts to regulate Firearms are not the answer in my opinion. We have these rights, which are far more than the rest of the world, as unalienable and should be treated as such because the moment you start limiting them regardless of the price is the moment people look to assert control... If you give a mouse a cookie.

 

[32andBelow]

The 2a people won’t even agree to background checks bruh

 

[Phillyman2633]

I don’t have the answers but I also don’t think there’s really a purpose in a modern civilization for a guy to walk down the street with a high powered rifle.

There's probably not really a purpose in spending a trillion dollars and 20 years sending 18 year-olds with those same high-powered rifles to walk down the street of another country on the other side of the world, either, but hey fuck it, America be like it do right?

The 2a people won’t even agree to background checks bruh

That's because where does the line get drawn on who writes the rules on how background checks are conducted, the merit with which they're instituted? Sure, maybe the law gets written and enforced in good spirit for a few years, then 10 years from now a "Tales From the Crypt" 400 year old Diane Feinstein kicks open the door of her mausoleum and becomes president, decides that caffeine, being a stimulant, is a psychoactive agent and anyone who has had a cup of coffee in the last 10 years is hereby declared unstable and would not pass a background check. I mean that could just be written into law by way of an executive order anyway like the Clinton "assault" rifle ban, but I think the hesitance to enact an across-the-board background check (at least from my perspective) is the ambiguity in who would decide what constitutes a stable individual.

But the point is realistically a nonstarter given the number of guns already in circulation.

 

[Billybob]

Quite a few individuals believe that we should tax

 

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The 2a people won’t even agree to background checks bruh

go look up Portland live streams happening right now. A mob of hundreds just tried lynching a guy and he barricaded himself in Chevron and the police saved him just before the mob broke in. If you dont beleive in self defense thats your right, stay hiding in your basement

 

[32andBelow]

go look up Portland live streams happening right now. A mob of hundreds just tried lynching a guy and he barricaded himself in Chevron and the police saved him just before the mob broke in. If you dont beleive in self defense thats your right, stay hiding in your basement

I don’t hang out at riots

 

[Shikaka]

The constitution also promises free speech and religion but I can’t stand outside your house with a megaphone and promote the godhood of large white bats at midnight.

I’m not against guns or even ARs I just think that blindly reading(not sure how that’s possible) the constitution and assuming what the founders meant is strange. Trying to directly take what they were imagining and applying it today is silly. You have to be able to find a balance. I don’t have the answers but I also don’t think there’s really a purpose in a modern civilization for a guy to walk down the street with a high powered rifle.

That's an extremely poor comparison to my right to life and the ability to defend it.

 

[Kilo popa]

I don’t hang out at riots

You’re still answering every answer anyone gives you , unless you don’t have a answer. Then you deflect.

 

[Mike Kilo]

I don’t hang out at riots

A lot of people live downtown near these riots and don’t have a lot of choice. I guess you think they should be forced to flee their homes because rioters chose their block?
Just as people have the right to protest, so do people have the right to counter protest or just be present.
I hope the father of the kid killed in “CHAZ” gets his $3B from Seattle and WA for failing to do their job and maintain order. Buncha pussies leading these places.