Enroute Class pass rate

Hope said:

2/13 ENROUTE

ZTL
ZDC
ZDC
ZLA
ZID
ZLA
ZSE
ZJX
ZAU
ZME
ZDV
ZAB
ZNY
ZTL
ZHU
ZOB
ZHU
ZOB

ALTS:
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New hiring discord

God damn. Now that is some variety. If I’m under 31 can I resign and go back to okc and try my luck at a new list?

Hope said:

2/8 Enroute List

ZNY
ZNY
ZHU
ZFW
ZOB
ZHU
ZLC
ZMA
ZMA
ZAB

ALTs
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class went 8/10

2/21 Enroute List
ZNY
ZNY
ZLC
ZME
ZID
ZAU
ZFW
ZTL
ZTL
ZFW

ALTs
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

2/13 ENROUTE

ZTL
ZDC
ZDC
ZLA
ZID
ZLA
ZSE
ZJX
ZAU
ZME
ZDV
ZAB
ZNY
ZTL
ZHU
ZOB
ZHU
ZOB

ALTS:
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New hiring discord

Class went 13/17

hpwjuicebox said:

God damn. Now that is some variety. If I’m under 31 can I resign and go back to okc and try my luck at a new list?

that's literally like half the centers in the country. If anything this list proves new grads should be able to go wherever they want as long as it's less than 100% staffed which is everywhere. The list system is such trash.

Any "undesirable" locations that wouldn't get picked clearly need increases to CIP since that was originally the whole point of CIP.

abc1234 said:

that's literally like half the centers in the country. If anything this list proves new grads should be able to go wherever they want as long as it's less than 100% staffed which is everywhere. The list system is such trash.

Any "undesirable" locations that wouldn't get picked clearly need increases to CIP since that was originally the whole point of CIP.

Get outta here with all that logic, especially the second paragraph.

abc1234 said:

that's literally like half the centers in the country. If anything this list proves new grads should be able to go wherever they want as long as it's less than 100% staffed which is everywhere. The list system is such trash.

Any "undesirable" locations that wouldn't get picked clearly need increases to CIP since that was originally the whole point of CIP.

That wasn’t the original point of CIP

abc1234 said:

that's literally like half the centers in the country. If anything this list proves new grads should be able to go wherever they want as long as it's less than 100% staffed which is everywhere. The list system is such trash.

Any "undesirable" locations that wouldn't get picked clearly need increases to CIP since that was originally the whole point of CIP.

The list system is incredibly stupid, but unfortunately, I’m pretty sure there’s a whole department in OKC that handles just lists. Those people have obviously overcomplicated the entire system to justify their paychecks. Some AI program could easily come up with a way more efficient placement system.

Atc1001 said:

That wasn’t the original point of CIP

Was it not to provide an incentive to go to "hard to staff facilities"? What was it then?

abc1234 said:

that's literally like half the centers in the country. If anything this list proves new grads should be able to go wherever they want as long as it's less than 100% staffed which is everywhere. The list system is such trash.

Any "undesirable" locations that wouldn't get picked clearly need increases to CIP since that was originally the whole point of CIP.

This.

abc1234 said:

Was it not to provide an incentive to go to "hard to staff facilities"? What was it then?

No the original concept of CIP was based on the runzheimer index. Look that up. You’ll see what that index is for

2/28 Enroute List

ZFW
ZTL
ZME
ZLA
ZLA
ZNY
ZOB
ZMA
ZDC
ZMA
ZDC
ZME
ZLC
ZID
ZJX
ZDV

ALTs
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Atc1001 said:

No the original concept of CIP was based on the runzheimer index. Look that up. You’ll see what that index is for

wtf are you talking about lol. For business meals and lodging expenses?

Hope said:

2/21 Enroute List
ZNY
ZNY
ZLC
ZME
ZID
ZAU
ZFW
ZTL
ZTL
ZFW

ALTs
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class finished 2/10

Hope said:

Class finished 2/10

Ouch

Hope said:

Class finished 2/10

Thank God for the new rule lol.

Just in time too. It’s rare you see only 2 people pass with the double decker NY!

What exactly was the justification for the rule anyway?

BPM31694 said:

Just in time too. It’s rare you see only 2 people pass with the double decker NY!

What exactly was the justification for the rule anyway?

Too many people are miserable? What was their justification for keeping that shit rule around as long as they did?

BPM31694 said:

Thank God for the new rule lol.

Just in time too. It’s rare you see only 2 people pass with the double decker NY!

What exactly was the justification for the rule anyway?

Because a ton of people have quit since COVID, especially trainees, and a huge factor in that is people ending up trapped somewhere they don’t want to be. People used to be able to justify being trapped somewhere with the salary, but since our wages have fallen far behind inflation and other careers in the industry, that’s no longer valid either.

3/6 Enroute List

ZNY
ZAB
ZAB
ZHU
ZDV
ZMP
ZMP
ZKC
ZBW
ZKC
ZAU
ZNY

ALTs
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

3/6 Enroute List

ZNY
ZAB
ZAB
ZHU
ZDV
ZMP
ZMP
ZKC
ZBW
ZKC
ZAU
ZNY

ALTs
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

And with that, in the last 30 days every single Z in the nation has been listed for academy grads except for ZOA, ZAN, and ZUA which are probably available for volunteers at any time.

Once again the list is pointless if you can select any facility regardless of who passes. What's the point of separating them by class? Just let Z grads go wherever they want as long as the facility doesn't have a backlog and is under 100% projected.