Facility Downgrades / Upgrades

Downgrade:
MYR 9 to 8 (heard they lost a flight school but another is coming)

Upgrade:
MLI from a 5 to a 6

Upgrade:
FFZ and DVT from 8 to 9

2nd 9 upgrade in 5 years for DVT. Nice scam of a system

Wizard said:

2nd 9 upgrade in 5 years for DVT. Nice scam of a system

COVID caused a flight school to shut down/relocate which killed the traffic and caused the downgrade, the other flight schools expanded and new ones cropped up, and they recovered the lost ground. At least they have the space there, FFZ is bursting at the seams with how busy it is for its size.

Wizard said:

2nd 9 upgrade in 5 years for DVT. Nice scam of a system

I think you have to be downgraded for like 3 years to get a raise right?

Golf delta said:

I think you have to be downgraded for like 3 years to get a raise right?

Yes

Upgrade:

SNA from 8 to 9
HUF from 5 to 6

Effective date for both 11/3/24

22papa said:

Upgrade:

SNA from 8 to 9
HUF from 5 to 6

Effective date for both 11/3/24

The HUF upgrade is interesting

Golf delta said:

I think you have to be downgraded for like 3 years to get a raise right?

2 years

Wizard said:

2nd 9 upgrade in 5 years for DVT. Nice scam of a system

Yes heaven forbid 15 guys get a 6% raise for working the most miserable version of air traffic imaginable. We should renegotiate that appendix A scam to make sure no one ever gets 2 raises in a career.

StealthChain said:

The HUF upgrade is interesting

I’m assuming because they are scheduled to get 804’d?

22papa said:

I’m assuming because they are scheduled to get 804’d?

IND is finally taking their airspace?

22papa said:

I’m assuming because they are scheduled to get 804’d?

lol! That means they are going down to a 4 not up to a 6.

22papa said:

I’m assuming because they are scheduled to get 804’d?

Sometime. Supposed to have happened for a while but allegedly will happen soon(ish). I’m guessing all the flash through traffic on IND arrivals got their numbers high enough

StealthChain said:

Sometime. Supposed to have happened for a while but allegedly will happen soon(ish). I’m guessing all the flash through traffic on IND arrivals got their numbers high enough

Yea, good for them though at least they get the raise and the FAA didn’t get to use the excuse of them losing their radar to not give them an upgrade. Since the 804 just keeps getting kicked down the line forever at most places.

Looking at their numbers it looks like they were always relatively close to a 6 the past couple years and that airspace change gave them the extra bump.

Move78 said:

2 years

Damn well then the question is what’s the effective date. On this site it says they were downgraded mid July 23. Might be just under the 2 years. That sucks. And why is anyone talking shit on controllers getting a raise?

Golf delta said:

Damn well then the question is what’s the effective date. On this site it says they were downgraded mid July 23. Might be just under the 2 years. That sucks. And why is anyone talking shit on controllers getting a raise?

Controllers favorite things to do: talking shit on others and being jealous/upset when someone gets something they don’t.

Upgrades:

Effective date 3/9/25
POC from 5 to 6

Effective date 5/4/25
SFB from 8 to 9
PNE from 5 to 6

The scam that keeps giving

Wizard said:

The scam that keeps giving

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