Facility Downgrades / Upgrades

AlmostEligible said:

Cry more

This is the entire internet anymore. Just constant complaining about everything. People must live sad lives these days.

The only way to get a raise is go to a facility that flip flops every 3 years

Haven’t heard of anywhere being downgraded or upgraded in awhile. Are they finally moving shit over to ABACUS?

According to Overlord Daniels, they are determining breakpoints for centers right now then they will start implementing ABACUS for the terminal side.

CreepyPineapple said:

According to Overlord Daniels, they are determining breakpoints for centers right now then they will start implementing ABACUS for the terminal side.

Rumor is every level 9 in the country will be downgraded but still not be able to ERR out. /s

PRC level 8 -> 9

llamas said:

PRC level 8 -> 9

Was that the only movement? Some places been over the breakpoint for awhile

Soul_Controller said:

Was that the only movement? Some places been over the breakpoint for awhile

I think you mean breaking point

Upgrades:

8/10/25
FSM 6>7

10/5/25
PWM 6>7
IAD 9>10
CAE 6>7

12/14/25
P80 8>9

Downgrades
TOA 6>5

MLI?

TOA is a roller coaster god damn. Also fuck the city of Torrance.

youtube.com/watch?v=p7oC2Ei_GGQ

Soul_Controller said:

MLI?

Buddy says they’re still in the works but definitely looking like they’ll be a 6 soon. Traffic count has been validated.

SquawkHijack said:

Buddy says they’re still in the works but definitely looking like they’ll be a 6 soon. Traffic count has been validated.

That backpay check should be nice for them

Likely facing a downgrade in the future. Anybody with experience wanna help assure me that 'base pay' will never go down if I don't leave my facility? I've read the relevant article in the CBA, but I want to make sure and googling it gives an incomplete picture. To my understanding, if the pay band drops to where the top of the band falls below my then-current base pay, my base pay is retained and future raises are afforded as written - the base pay is NOT lowered to the top of the new band. Is this accurate?

Oh_Horizon said:

Likely facing a downgrade in the future. Anybody with experience wanna help assure me that 'base pay' will never go down if I don't leave my facility? I've read the relevant article in the CBA, but I want to make sure and googling it gives an incomplete picture. To my understanding, if the pay band drops to where the top of the band falls below my then-current base pay, my base pay is retained and future raises are afforded as written - the base pay is NOT lowered to the top of the new band. Is this accurate?

I thought it was just that you saved pay for 3 years and then went to the top of the band. Haven't read it, that's just what I've heard so idk

Oh_Horizon said:

Likely facing a downgrade in the future. Anybody with experience wanna help assure me that 'base pay' will never go down if I don't leave my facility? I've read the relevant article in the CBA, but I want to make sure and googling it gives an incomplete picture. To my understanding, if the pay band drops to where the top of the band falls below my then-current base pay, my base pay is retained and future raises are afforded as written - the base pay is NOT lowered to the top of the new band. Is this accurate?

From what I understand of your question, you are correct per this section. You remain on the previous pay band for two years (and get normal raises), and when that two years expires, your pay “freezes,” and your raises become 50% of the raise applied to your salary and 50% issued in a lump sum.

Homsar said:

From what I understand of your question, you are correct per this section. You remain on the previous pay band for two years (and get normal raises), and when that two years expires, your pay “freezes,” and your raises become 50% of the raise applied to your salary and 50% issued in a lump sum.

So basically they give you 50% of your January raise to your base and 50% as a bonus until you are back to the top of the band?

Gauff said:

So basically they give you 50% of your January raise to your base and 50% as a bonus until you are back to the top of the band?

In my experience you stay above the band. The June raise is also a lump sum. Your pay will go up with January raises only, and only 50% of it. In my case, the facility got downgraded twice and I've always been above the band of the new level.

Thank you for the info and testimony, I believe my original position is correct luckily. If someone's pay fell to the top of the new(lower) pay band, I doubt they would need a section called "Pay Retention" and word it like that. It seems it would read much more direct.