+TSRA said:Don’t worry. Team Dicky (Nick & Duffy) are going to show up & start moving traffic.
I’d pay money to see Nick try to work traffic
Government Shutdown - March Edition
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#642 DOD4Life said:
Hey, we’ve been told the Republicans will introduce their great alternative to Obamacare “IN 2 WEEKS” since Donald’s first term. Two weeks is always the magic number.
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#643 SquawkHijack said:
Lmao brothers and sisters were fired in the 80’s in droves and you act like a few hours of leave being forfeited involuntarily is Armageddon.
To clarify PATCO got everything they asked for, then returned to the table to ask for more when they saw the power they had. Most systems were similar and they could backfill when they fired them as well.....with 30% less commercial traffic.
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#644 Phillytroll69 said:
To clarify PATCO got everything they asked for, then returned to the table to ask for more when they saw the power they had. Most systems were similar and they could backfill when they fired them as well.....with 30% less commercial traffic.
Yeah PATCO negotiated in bad faith and the traffic was slow enough to bring in the military. Today we don't negotiate at all and the military taking over would cause a recession in the country.
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#646 32andBelow said:
Everyone will receive a commemorative pin of the trump ballroom
I could see this happening.
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#647 GulfCharlie said:
I could see this happening.
I could see us getting TDY to dig the foundation
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#648 Gauff said:
Yeah PATCO negotiated in bad faith and the traffic was slow enough to bring in the military. Today we don't negotiate at all and the military taking over would cause a recession in the country.
And the military was robust and well staffed enough to have enough controllers to be able to detail some to come over and work.
That that the near epitome of the Cold War U.S. military, which peaked in 1991. It’s sharply fallen off since the fall of the ussr and even the spike for GWOT was a blip compared to like 1990. It’s now about 40% smaller today than is was in 1980.
Military ATC also suffers from retention issues, mainly bc they can’t hide the fact that once rated, people can get out and work DOD or FAA for more money and less hassle. The hiring boom of the faa for the last decade means that most career military ATC are probably people who aren’t great at the job and so they stayed in.
Thus. I don’t think the military could help out nearly as much as they did in the 80s, they simply don’t have the staffing they once did either. The difference between the traffic levels is ever more stark outside of a handful of bases and even then. ATC is critically manned in all or most branches as I recall and one of the few jobs that got people re-enlistment bonuses as of late.
In 1990 there were about 2.3 million people on active duty alone. Now there’s about 1.3 million on active duty now and if you add in about 800k in the reserves that means that the total force today is smaller than just the active component in 1990. They can’t conjure up service members let alone “spare” military controllers
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#649 Just an exercise in thought, would be rather interesting dilemma for someone if ATC strikes and FAA controllers who are also guard controllers are sent to their FAA facility as Guard controllers to work it
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#650 DankVectorz said:
Just an exercise in thought, would be rather interesting dilemma for someone if ATC strikes and FAA controllers who are also guard controllers are sent to their FAA facility as Guard controllers to work it
I'm sure they'd work really hard and get everyone sufficiently trained up 😂
Honestly though they'd probably get sent to some different facility that they have zero idea how to work
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#651 Gauff said:
I'm sure they'd work really hard and get everyone sufficiently trained up 😂
Honestly though they'd probably get sent to some different facility that they have zero idea how to work
Imagine a bunch of ft Rucker range controller army bubbas being dumped on ZJX to work arrival streams in thunderstorms 🤣
I should delete this before someone in mgmt sees it and thinks “what a great idea!”
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#652 Gauff said:
Yeah PATCO negotiated in bad faith and the traffic was slow enough to bring in the military. Today we don't negotiate at all and the military taking over would cause a recession in the country.
Neither one of you are correct in what you’re saying about PATCO. Go read up before you run your mouths. Reagan lied to patco. You can easily find the letter he wrote to patco claiming to support patco in return for their endorsement. Then, he got patco’s endorsement but was then blackmailed by republicans on his support for a labor union. So, he then turned his back on PATCO to protect himself and his reputation. You two are just regurgitating things you hear from other people who are also regurgitating things they’ve heard that aren’t true.
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#654 AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise said:
In solidarity
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#655 Jellismate said:
Why do you people defend any of these idiots? We are all just cucks working for free and NEITHER party gives a damn about us.
100%. I’m literally reading through most of these posts and truly don’t understand how people can be so ignorant on both sides. It’s remarkable. I think a lot of people start off wanting to make a difference in politics and some really do care about people, protecting people’s rights, being humane, making the world a better place, blah blah blah, but inevitably the majority of politicians become corrupt or just want more money and power. All of us normal every day citizens will always be the ones that have to suffer. The only way things will change is if we make our voices heard through the dollars we spend and voting for the people that are the least corrupt. Make these MOFO’s earn our support! Don’t just claim to be a Republican or a Democrat because you want to “belong” to something. Use your brains. Put in the work and actually research. Use critical thinking skills. And please, for the love of god, stop watching Fox News. Don’t get me wrong, they’re all pretty bad, but Fox takes the cake… nails on a chalkboard.
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#656 LEAD004 said:
how people can be so ignorant on both sides.
Well right now one side doesn’t care about me by trying to dismantle almost every institution in the country, mass firing government employees seemingly at random, arresting US citizens because they aren’t white, deporting people to random countries without due process, cutting taxes on billionaires, instituting tariffs and trade wars via tweet, dismantling consumer protection laws, eliminating clean drinking water and other environmental protections, and covering up for pedophiles, and the other side doesn’t care about me by trying to keep healthcare somewhat affordable. But yes, bOtH SiDeS
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#657 DankVectorz said:
Well right now one side doesn’t care about me by trying to dismantle almost every institution in the country, mass firing government employees seemingly at random, arresting US citizens because they aren’t white, deporting people to random countries without due process, cutting taxes on billionaires, instituting tariffs and trade wars via tweet, dismantling consumer protection laws, eliminating clean drinking water and other environmental protections, and covering up for pedophiles, and the other side doesn’t care about me by trying to keep healthcare somewhat affordable. But yes, bOtH SiDeS
When I say “both sides” I’m talking about Republicans and Democrats. Trump and his MAGA cult following are their own breed. I can’t even believe we’re living through another Trump presidency. Don’t even get me started on all of that.
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#658 LEAD004 said:
When I say “both sides” I’m talking about Republicans and Democrats. Trump and his MAGA cult following are their own breed. I can’t even believe we’re living through another Trump presidency. Don’t even get me started on all of that.
Bullshit. Republicans are doing everything maga wants in lockstep.
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#659 32andBelow said:
Bullshit. Republicans are doing everything maga wants in lockstep.
Ya, like I said.. don’t even get me started on that! 🤣
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#660 Distraction time! No more wars! No more wars! Whoo!