Soul_Controller said:They got drugs of mass destruction. It absolutely has nothing to do with oil this time!
Ironically enough Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world! 😉:D
Government Shutdown - March Edition
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#742 N90-EWR said:
Ironically enough Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world! 😉:D
Pete Kegseth channeling his inner Rumsfeld:
“We know where the drugs of mass destruction are. They’re in the area north, east, west & south of Caracas.”
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#743 N90-EWR said:
Ironically enough Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world! 😉:D
Yeah? I thought they were down around 12th or so.
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OP #744 What the fuck is going on in this thread?
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#745 ClearanceClarence said:
What the fuck is going on in this thread?
Nothing out of the norm for Pandemics (original Shoot-The-Breeze catalyst) and Shutdowns.
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#746 Did Duffy just give us the green light?
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#747 AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise said:
Did Duffy just give us the green light?
You needed a light?
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#748 Is anyone else praying they fuck up all their OT pay when it reopens so we can sue the FAA again? 🙏
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#749 Mike Kilo said:
Is anyone else praying they fuck up all their OT pay when it reopens so we can sue the FAA again? 🙏
ugh, no, i dont want to waste too much of my time fucking around with spreadsheets. It's unpaid labor.
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#750 Spiralbox21 said:
Actual shutdown question as this is my first one: when the government reopens, so we get a straight 80 check and differentials come later? Or is it all together like a normal check?
yeah, last time I think we got a paycheck or 2 of straight 80 then a lump sum to pay us our premiums and differentials. it was a mess. Like 32 said, it was just a single line item for all of the back pay with no accounting for how they came up with that number. We had to just hope it was right.
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#751 32andBelow said:
Nothanks
Bro says to get a life but all he does is shitpost in here lol
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#752 32andBelow said:
Do you think it could be a glaring problem with our health care system that it makes sense for people to work 28 hours instead of 40?
You nimrod, People work 28 hours because if they work 30 hours they are considered FULL TIME and that companies must provide health insurance for their employees. So these companies cut back their hours and still don't provide them with insurance. Thus forcing them to work a second or third job to pay for the Unaffordable Care Act, AKA Obamacare.
So, when the Government is fully funded, controllers complain that they are overworked, being forced into O.T. sometimes 6 days a week 10 hours a day. So 20 hours of OT a week and these people haven't stashed away any of this money? They can't miss a paycheck or two? Really? How are people banging out because they haven't received a paycheck? Do you really expect me to believe that they are out driving for Door Dash/ Uber? Make it make sense? I see that the controllers are being used as pawns to fight Trump. Bang out to apply pressure that the Dims need to improve their "look" in this shutdown that they have caused.
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#753 Dr. Rumack said:
So, when the Government is fully funded, controllers complain that they are overworked, being forced into O.T. sometimes 6 days a week 10 hours a day. So 20 hours of OT a week and these people haven't stashed away any of this money? They can't miss a paycheck or two? Really? How are people banging out because they haven't received a paycheck? Do you really expect me to believe that they are out driving for Door Dash/ Uber? Make it make sense? I see that the controllers are being used as pawns to fight Trump. Bang out to apply pressure that the Dims need to improve their "look" in this shutdown that they have caused.
The problem with these arguments is not only that it conveniently assumes financial equality across the board, but that it's a path to things being things worse.
I.E: so I can weather 4 or 5 checks missed, and somehow that makes it ok that we've missed 2. Why ever bother trying to pay us on time if it doesn't matter to us, right?
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#754 ATCJoe85 said:
The problem with these arguments is not only that it conveniently assumes financial equality across the board, but that it's a path to things being things worse.
I.E: so I can weather 4 or 5 checks missed, and somehow that makes it ok that we've missed 2. Why ever bother trying to pay us on time if it doesn't matter to us, right?
Not to mention most people that are working all the OT are doing it because this career is about 40% underpaid, and if they've been in 20 years and want to have the same life style this job afforded when they started then they have to work.
It's always a good idea to live within your means, but the fact is that most people push that to the absolute limit. Whether they're making 50k a year or 200k a year. People don't tend to factor in their employer forcing them to be at work and just not paying them for a month or more to where they can't go find another job.
In general this career is severely underpaid and has seen its purchasing power of what is provided decrease for 20 years which drives people to work the OT to provide the same quality of life for their family.
PAY RAISE NOW
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#755 Dr. Rumack said:
So, when the Government is fully funded, controllers complain that they are overworked, being forced into O.T. sometimes 6 days a week 10 hours a day. So 20 hours of OT a week and these people haven't stashed away any of this money? They can't miss a paycheck or two? Really? How are people banging out because they haven't received a paycheck? Do you really expect me to believe that they are out driving for Door Dash/ Uber? Make it make sense? I see that the controllers are being used as pawns to fight Trump. Bang out to apply pressure that the Dims need to improve their "look" in this shutdown that they have caused.
It’s irrelevant if they’ve save money or not. If you’re providing labor you should get paid at the agreed upon time. Even if someone had 5 million dollars in savings why should I have to forgo interest or liquidate investments cus their work didn’t pay them. I have reasons to not have a ton of savings this year so we’ll see how it goes 🤪
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#756 32andBelow said:
It’s irrelevant if they’ve save money or not. If you’re providing labor you should get paid at the agreed upon time. Even if someone had 5 million dollars in savings why should I have to forgo interest or liquidate investments cus their work didn’t pay them. I have reasons to not have a ton of savings this year so we’ll see how it goes 🤪
There really needs to be case law in which the courts rule it unconstitutional to force federal workers to show up & work without pay. There should be no “essential” vs “nonessential.” If the government gets shut down due to a lapse in funding, it should truly be shut down. Let the American people see what a TRUE shutdown really means where we all go home until they have the money to pay us.
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#757 DOD4Life said:
There really needs to be case law in which the courts rule it unconstitutional to force federal workers to show up & work without pay. There should be no “essential” vs “nonessential.” If the government gets shut down due to a lapse in funding, it should truly be shut down. Let the American people see what a TRUE shutdown really means where we all go home until they have the money to pay us.
You took an oath tho
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#758 Am I the only still upset that congress can trade stocks that I can't?
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#759 Shikaka said:
Am I the only still upset that congress can trade stocks that I can't?
I dunno but the list I got said stuff like pan am. In other news the maker of Tylenol was sold today. Everything is a grift.
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#760 DOD4Life said:
There really needs to be case law in which the courts rule it unconstitutional to force federal workers to show up & work without pay. There should be no “essential” vs “nonessential.” If the government gets shut down due to a lapse in funding, it should truly be shut down. Let the American people see what a TRUE shutdown really means where we all go home until they have the money to pay us.
Or we just do what they did before Reagan’s AG re-interpreted the law and if a budget doesn’t pass they just keep things going as it was til they do pass one. Worked for the 200 years before then.