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Government Shutdown - March Edition

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  1. 32andBelow #861
    Phillytroll69 said:

    I will never smack talk you again

    It’s such a stupid bet. It has like zero upside lmao

  2. Phillytroll69 #862
    32andBelow said:

    It’s such a stupid bet. It has like zero upside lmao

    Five dollars is five dollars tho

  3. AlmostEligible #863
    ClearanceClarence said:

    Exactly, it has scam written all over it. If someone is really having medical issues, there are so many layers of possible options. Sick leave, advance sick leave, leave donations, admin duties, and if all else fails, medical retirement. What the fuck is the point of paying hundreds of dollars a year for “insurance” that MIGHT pay out 50% of your salary (or a max of $5000/month) for awhile? And even if you can get a claim approved, you have to wait a minimum of 90 or 180 days before they even begin to pay! What the fuck is the point??

    Again, it’d be really interesting to know the reason NATCA’s pushing this scam coverage in our faces so aggressively. They have to be profiting from this somehow.

    I know a controller that had cancer and the chemo treatments made them to sick to come to work even for basic admin duty. Having this insurance was a MAJOR benefit for them. Said they don't know what they would of done had they not had it. I understand why you feel the way you do, but worse case scenario does happen in life. I definitely have it just in case. The cost is worth the peace of mind in my opinion. Plus it isn't that much, I spend more than that is spilled liquor.

  4. 32andBelow #864
    Phillytroll69 said:

    I will never smack talk you again

    ICE cost me 50 bucks

  5. Phillytroll69 #865
    32andBelow said:

    ICE cost me 50 bucks

    Dude

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    I joked about throwing 100 in mad regrets now

  6. 32andBelow #866
    Phillytroll69 said:

    Dude

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    I joked about throwing 100 in mad regrets now

    I was gonna see the position cus it was so stupid cus it didn’t pay anything but I just held it cus everyone was fine. 😂. We probably lost our raise too.

  7. SquawkHijack #867
    32andBelow said:

    I was gonna see the position cus it was so stupid cus it didn’t pay anything but I just held it cus everyone was fine. 😂. We probably lost our raise too.

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    That 3.8% is gone for sure now.

  8. Phillytroll69 #868
    32andBelow said:

    I was gonna see the position cus it was so stupid cus it didn’t pay anything but I just held it cus everyone was fine. 😂. We probably lost our raise too.

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    I care more about your 5 dollars than my 3.8% ❤️

  9. Foppery&Whim #869

    Ah, potential government shutdown during super bowl week. This will be interesting...

  10. Spiralbox21 #870

    classic ATC. glimmer of hope of a raise and now we get a kick in the nards. knew it was too good to be true. so frustrating. cant imagine how trainees who just moved for this job last year would feel if shutdown happens twice in a 12 month span.

  11. 32andBelow #871

    I don’t think they’ll block the THUD bill tho so we probably get worst of both worlds.

  12. Foppery&Whim #872
    32andBelow said:

    I don’t think they’ll block the THUD bill tho so we probably get worst of both worlds.

    I think the DHS bill will be introduced first before all the other bills. Or it's introduced collectively as a package. If it fails, then everything is shutdown.

  13. Phillytroll69 #873
    Foppery&Whim said:

    I think the DHS bill will be introduced first before all the other bills. Or it's introduced collectively as a package. If it fails, then everything is shutdown.

    I hate to say this but the dems caved on last shutdown with promises to renegotiate healthcare.....that didn't happen.

    I don't know if they grow a spine this time-it may be a long one. IE we can't fund murder or whatever hill they are on top of.

    I really believe leftist policies are better for common people but the party is just not unified, if they unify on this I'm hoping to get paid in june and have it all corrected by December

  14. echster #874
    Foppery&Whim said:

    I think the DHS bill will be introduced first before all the other bills. Or it's introduced collectively as a package. If it fails, then everything is shutdown.

    Appears to be an all-or-none package of four appropriations bills combined into one bill: Defense (Division A), Homeland Security (Division B), Labor-HHS-Ed (Division C), and Transportation-HUD (Division D).

    Bill has passed the House and is scheduled to come to the Senate floor on Monday.

  15. bomber996 #875

    The THUD Bill was separate from DHS when voted on in the house. Both passed, the DHS bill by a close margin. Then Republican House Leadership combined the bills together and sent them to the Senate. The Senate is set to vote on an all or nothing bill.

  16. GroundClutter #876
    bomber996 said:

    The THUD Bill was separate from DHS when voted on in the house. Both passed, the DHS bill by a close margin. Then Republican House Leadership combined the bills together and sent them to the Senate. The Senate is set to vote on an all or nothing bill.

    Lol

    Fuck

  17. ManBearPig #877

    Anyone know what the "caveats" in the bill for our raise are? The email from Nick today was the first I have heard of strings being attached to the 3.8%.

  18. Phillytroll69 #878
    ManBearPig said:

    Anyone know what the "caveats" in the bill for our raise are? The email from Nick today was the first I have heard of strings being attached to the 3.8%.

    I don't even know what they are referring to but the actual language was to increase safety, efficiency, and training at discretion of administrator or something? I can dig it out later.

  19. Termine #879
    ManBearPig said:

    what the "caveats" in the bill

    Sec. 549. There is appropriated $140,000,000 for an additional amount for ``Department of Transportation-Federal Aviation Administration-Operations'' for air traffic organization activities, to remain available until September 30, 2027:
    Provided, That the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall only use such amounts to provide a rate of pay increase for calendar year 2026 of 3.8 percent, for air traffic controllers, as defined by section 2109(1)(A) of title 5, United States Code, and air traffic controller supervisors or managers who are not covered under such section, but who manage air traffic:
    Provided further, That such adjustment shall be implemented for all such employees only to the extent the Administrator determines, in his sole discretion, that improvements in workforce scheduling, staffing utilization, or other operational efficiencies are achieved that contribute to addressing workforce shortfalls and enhancing aviation safety:
    Provided further, That if the Administrator makes such determination, then such adjustment shall be effective the first pay period beginning after January 1, 2026:
    Provided further, That amounts provided by this section shall be subject to the same authorities and conditions as if such amounts were provided by the Department of Transportation Appropriations Act, 2026.

    So Nick's email makes it sound like the agency snuck that extra language into the bill without NATCA's knowledge. Which doesn't bode well for Bedford actually choosing to give us the raise, IMO.

  20. Phillytroll69 #880

    So perfect attendance this shutdown = 3.8%....

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