Government Shutdown - March Edition

Maybe they’ll give it to people that are actually current

Them being surprised at the caveat language would be laughable if it didn’t show how sad their lobbying effectiveness truly is.

Termine said:

So Nick's email makes it sound like the agency snuck that extra language into the bill without NATCA's knowledge. Which doesn't bode well for Bedford actually choosing to give us the raise, IMO.

Literally says if we get rid of 4/10s without saying it.

Homsar said:

Them being surprised at the caveat language would be laughable if it didn’t show how sad their lobbying effectiveness truly is.

It should be pretty fucking telling that the FAA is literally lobbying against you. But yeah, NATCA is the problem.

So 3.8% for roughly half the union's membership... but only if they're prepared for BOHICA.

<s>This is not going to be divisive for 100% of membership at all.</s>

ManBearPig said:

Literally says if we get rid of 4/10s without saying it.

What did i miss? Where was this said?

Phillytroll69 said:

What did i miss? Where was this said?

This is the language termine posted above..

That such adjustment shall be implemented for all such employees only to the extent the Administrator determines, in his sole discretion, that improvements in workforce scheduling, staffing utilization, or other operational efficiencies are achieved that contribute to addressing workforce shortfalls and enhancing aviation safety

They want control of our schedules. My guess is they are going to try to force us to let them have full control and get rid of local BWS in exchange for the extra 2.8%

AlmostEligible said:

I know a controller that had cancer and the chemo treatments made them to sick to come to work even for basic admin duty. Having this insurance was a MAJOR benefit for them. Said they don't know what they would of done had they not had it. I understand why you feel the way you do, but worse case scenario does happen in life. I definitely have it just in case. The cost is worth the peace of mind in my opinion. Plus it isn't that much, I spend more than that is spilled liquor.

Imagine being so stupid you can't comprehend long term disability insurance

ManBearPig said:

This is the language termine posted above..

That such adjustment shall be implemented for all such employees only to the extent the Administrator determines, in his sole discretion, that improvements in workforce scheduling, staffing utilization, or other operational efficiencies are achieved that contribute to addressing workforce shortfalls and enhancing aviation safety

They want control of our schedules. My guess is they are going to try to force us to let them have full control and get rid of local BWS in exchange for the extra 2.8%

Counter offer, bang every shift

ManBearPig said:

This is the language termine posted above..

That such adjustment shall be implemented for all such employees only to the extent the Administrator determines, in his sole discretion, that improvements in workforce scheduling, staffing utilization, or other operational efficiencies are achieved that contribute to addressing workforce shortfalls and enhancing aviation safety

They want control of our schedules. My guess is they are going to try to force us to let them have full control and get rid of local BWS in exchange for the extra 2.8%

Oh yeah I missed where you said your guess.

Cpt_munky said:

Imagine being so stupid you can't comprehend long term disability insurance

Unfortunately there are A LOT of people who can't comprehend the simplest of things. Even in this career field.

AlmostEligible said:

Unfortunately there are A LOT of people who can't comprehend the simplest of things. Even in this career field.

This is the shutdown thread tho. Get out of my vent or I'll have you bent

AlmostEligible said:

Unfortunately there are A LOT of people who can't comprehend the simplest of things. Even in this career field.

If you get hurt and miss work it won’t hurt to miss work

ManBearPig said:

This is the language termine posted above..

That such adjustment shall be implemented for all such employees only to the extent the Administrator determines, in his sole discretion, that improvements in workforce scheduling, staffing utilization, or other operational efficiencies are achieved that contribute to addressing workforce shortfalls and enhancing aviation safety

They want control of our schedules. My guess is they are going to try to force us to let them have full control and get rid of local BWS in exchange for the extra 2.8%

Well then maybe it’s a good thing the bill will fail?

Termine said:

So Nick's email makes it sound like the agency snuck that extra language into the bill without NATCA's knowledge. Which doesn't bode well for Bedford actually choosing to give us the raise, IMO.

I’m so glad the union keeps collaborating with the agency.

also. They still haven’t signed the ojti MOU. Makes you think.

32andBelow said:

also. They still haven’t signed the ojti MOU. Makes you think.

Verbal agreements with the administration are about as useful as fishnet shit tickets.

Shikaka said:

Verbal agreements with the administration are about as useful as fishnet shit tickets.

What percentage do you think we’re gonna get on the paycheck this Friday?

32andBelow said:

What percentage do you think we’re gonna get on the paycheck this Friday?

25%

Nothanks said:

25%

They’re just hooking us up or what?

For those of you working at facilities with lots of OT aside from your other differentials, UNUM is definitely something you should consider getting. If you are incapacitated (not yet disqualified) for a period between 90-180 days (that depends on which tier you pick) they pay you for taking more than a 20% reduction in pay up to $5k….per month. So you could be down for a year+ and get up to an extra $5k/mo till you come back or retire like you’re working on position. For those who say it’s useless and a waste of money you’re only right if you never need it. But I mean that’s the nature insurance. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Dominipino said:

For those of you working at facilities with lots of OT aside from your other differentials, UNUM is definitely something you should consider getting. If you are incapacitated (not yet disqualified) for a period between 90-180 days (that depends on which tier you pick) they pay you for taking more than a 20% reduction in pay up to $5k….per month. So you could be down for a year+ and get up to an extra $5k/mo till you come back or retire like you’re working on position. For those who say it’s useless and a waste of money you’re only right if you never need it. But I mean that’s the nature insurance. 🤷🏽‍♂️

So they actually look at what you got paid not just look at what your paper salary is?