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I was stationed at Aviano AB, and wouldn't hate a Germany billet but without return rights, I think its a hard pass. Z money to DOD money would hurt.
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If DOD were to hypothetically give return rights to the FAA it would likely be subject to NCEPT.
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So you’re telling me if I go to Iwakuni they’ll save my pay from C90? Interesting
It's not a given. They'd have to be willing to pay for it. It has to be announced as a perk with the job announcement and the max is up-to 140% of the step 10 for the position. I think Iwakuni is GS-12 so that gotta be in the 160k range. But again, no return rights and if you PPP to a GS-12 location after you end up at GS-12 Step 10.
If it's not in the job announcement then it doesn't exist. Normal pay setting would apply which would likely land you at GS (whatever) step 10. which for a GS 12 is around 115 right now with a possible 10% pay raise on the horizon.
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If you ever find a job announcement with this save pay (step 00) can you post it here. Just so I can see an example of it. Would the pay range say GS12 89000-160000?
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There’s one now on USAJobs now for Marshall Islands (Supervisory Air Traffic Control Specialist (Terminal))
“Pay retention may be offered to selected applicants for positions at overseas locations. Pay retention will not be offered as an incentive for employees moving between overseas positions.”
That’s the only difference. They don’t show that in the pay range. All the Japan/Germany/other overseas usually state something similar to that.
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It's important to remember that not all DoD locations offer the same thing. OPM/DOD Instructions give pay and retention information but each Branch (ARMY/Air Force/NAVY) also have their own policies regarding when and how they save pay.
The ONLY thing that seems consistent between all branches is DoD transfers or promotions from one DoD location to another regardless of branch. (i.e you are a GS11 step 5 going to another GS-11 position in DoD.....you are a GS-11 step 7 taking a GS-12 position in DoD) these situations always at the minimum save pay for the transfers and always add two steps to previous grade, and line up that pay with the higher grade for promotions.
going from a GS12 to a GS11 voluntarily where your 12 pay was higher than GS11 step 10, resigning from FAA to take any GS position, and other situations like this when youre looking for 00 pay or maxing a pay band are always going to be up to the place you are going. Not going to find a black and white answer that all HR and locations accept and apply.
HOWEVER, you can always negotiate a higher step. even when they say "we can't do that", they can, they just might not do it or have never done it. I've seen people negotiate higher steps due to "superior qualifications"(OPM pay and retention) I've seen people negotiate 00 in situations where the Book says it doesn't apply. and I've seen HR give a GS12 step 2 a GS11 step 1 position because in their opinion "he voluntarily transferred and is not entitled to save pay"
basically, ask HR when you get the TOL what they'll do and ask the hiring manager if he'd support a higher step for superior qualifications.. odds are if you were selected by the guy he thought you're resume and references were the best and superior right?
EDIT: my experience has gone - Active Duty to a GS11 w/ air force, then to a GS12 w/ air force, transferred to a GS11 overseas with Army and return rights to GS12 with Air force
The ONLY thing that seems consistent between all branches is DoD transfers or promotions from one DoD location to another regardless of branch. (i.e you are a GS11 step 5 going to another GS-11 position in DoD.....you are a GS-11 step 7 taking a GS-12 position in DoD) these situations always at the minimum save pay for the transfers and always add two steps to previous grade, and line up that pay with the higher grade for promotions.
going from a GS12 to a GS11 voluntarily where your 12 pay was higher than GS11 step 10, resigning from FAA to take any GS position, and other situations like this when youre looking for 00 pay or maxing a pay band are always going to be up to the place you are going. Not going to find a black and white answer that all HR and locations accept and apply.
HOWEVER, you can always negotiate a higher step. even when they say "we can't do that", they can, they just might not do it or have never done it. I've seen people negotiate higher steps due to "superior qualifications"(OPM pay and retention) I've seen people negotiate 00 in situations where the Book says it doesn't apply. and I've seen HR give a GS12 step 2 a GS11 step 1 position because in their opinion "he voluntarily transferred and is not entitled to save pay"
basically, ask HR when you get the TOL what they'll do and ask the hiring manager if he'd support a higher step for superior qualifications.. odds are if you were selected by the guy he thought you're resume and references were the best and superior right?
EDIT: my experience has gone - Active Duty to a GS11 w/ air force, then to a GS12 w/ air force, transferred to a GS11 overseas with Army and return rights to GS12 with Air force
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Just received an offer from a DOD. Base pay while FAA was 78,142. What should I expect with SSR? Is it 78142 x 30% SSR since its an up/down?
Just received an offer from a DOD. Base pay while FAA was 78,142. What should I expect with SSR? Is it 78142 x 30% SSR since its an up/down?
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It's basic pay plus SSR or locality, whichever is higher. Basic pay is base pay before locality or CIP if you get it. It'll be on your SF50.
So take the basic pay, add the 30% SRR or locality, whichever is higher, then go to the GS pay table and find your grade, should be 11 or 12. Then look at what step in that grade it puts you at. If that's higher than the max then you'll just be stepped out at step 10. Then ad 5% ATC premium pay for AF, not sure if all Navy bases get that.
example:
basic pay $67,500+34.89% locality = $91,050, which comes out to GS11 step 5 at $90,683
plus 5% ATC premium comes to $95,217
Your TOL should have a number on it but with mine they just put me at step one. After talking to the ATM we got me a new TOL at step 5.
So technically 78142 x 30% SSR (locality was 17%) = 101584?
They offered me 95k lol
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Is 78,142 base pay or basic pay? You said base but if it's basic then yes. If it's base you have to figure out basic which I can't do the math for, subtracting a percentage gives a different number that what you started with before adding a percentage.
Its basic pay without locality
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Yeah cool that should be right then. Unless I'm wrong and someone will correct me.
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is the search function on this site broken or what
You cannot be this retarded. Or maybe you can… who knows? But I do know that the thread you are commenting on is named “Save pay FAA to DOD”
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double check block 20A on the SF-50 you gave them. if it's $78,142 then you should be 11 step 10 @ $100,246 and I would bring it up. If this is Army or Navy don't be surprised if they say "it's their policy" that they give you step 8
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Yeah. It looks like it went down yesterday. The amazon server that hosts it is just... gone. It should be working again.
I'd be interested to know if that's how his pay was set. Mine was not. They took my pay with locality and stuck me where I fit in the GS 0565 (SSR table) pay scale. Turns out this is one option for setting pay. I was miffed, because I expected they would drop locality and add SSR. Didn't happen and cost me 2 steps.
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Oof, yeah DoN tried this one me first and I threw an absolute fit and they fixed it.
They are trying to do what he said to me. I was under the impression it was a basic pay + SSR, DoA is saying I was hired under reinstatement to the DOD even if im coming from the FAA
