Terminal Class pass rate

RedTail said:

I’m hearing good things, excited for what’s to come. I appreciate the insight

BUR from what I’ve heard is a great facility. Nothing can beat bob hope. A legend. The price was right for you, good luck!

Spaceforce said:

BUR from what I’ve heard is a great facility. Nothing can beat bob hope. A legend. The price was right for you, good luck!

Thanks!

Class that PA’d yesterday graduated 5 of 8

List for class PA’ing 5/12:

FAY - Fayetteville Tower/Approach
FAY - Fayetteville Tower/Approach
BFL - Bakersfield Tower/Approach
BPT - Beaumont Tower
HPN - Westchester Tower
TRI - Tri-Cities Tower/Approach
MSN - Madison Tower/Approach
LIT - Little Rock Tower/Approach

redsphanatic said:

List for class PA’ing 5/12:

FAY - Fayetteville Tower/Approach
FAY - Fayetteville Tower/Approach
BFL - Bakersfield Tower/Approach
BPT - Beaumont Tower
HPN - Westchester Tower
TRI - Tri-Cities Tower/Approach
MSN - Madison Tower/Approach
LIT - Little Rock Tower/Approach

good luck!! if anyone has questions abt bpt, i just graduated the academy last month and started here a couple weeks ago 🙂

teefling said:

good luck!! if anyone has questions abt bpt, i just graduated the academy last month and started here a couple weeks ago 🙂

Lol BPT was my first FAA facility over 2 decades ago
The old tower was....gross.

jamisjockey said:

Lol BPT was my first FAA facility over 2 decades ago
The old tower was....gross.

I like how the current one is pink...... well salmon.

edds93 said:

There's a reason for that... with a 54% success rate and 2.5 year training time for a 6 up/down, I'd steer clear.

I work there. Not a bad facility and location is improving. The entire facility is frustrated beyond belief with the training times. It's all due to one REALLY bad supervisor and a manager with his head in the sand waiting for 40 years. Plus, no union help from the outside. It could be much better.

redsphanatic said:

List for class PA’ing 5/12:

FAY - Fayetteville Tower/Approach
FAY - Fayetteville Tower/Approach
BFL - Bakersfield Tower/Approach
BPT - Beaumont Tower
HPN - Westchester Tower
TRI - Tri-Cities Tower/Approach
MSN - Madison Tower/Approach
LIT - Little Rock Tower/Approach

Class passed 4 of 8.

redsphanatic said:

Class passed 4 of 8.

Anyone know why they failed? Nerves or just didn't have their phraseology, airport map memorized, and/or didn't take it seriously?

Foppery&Whim said:

Anyone know why they failed? Nerves or just didn't have their phraseology, airport map memorized, and/or didn't take it seriously?

Probably none of the above. If any of those it was likely nerves but there are so many variables and randomness with the evals and the way they are graded it sucks but a large portion of it is mainly a crapshoot and luck. The evals are not the hardest problems but hard enough that anyone no matter how well prepared can have one really bad run, paired with a evaluator who stacks and compounds the mistakes, and walk away with a 20 basically dooming them the rest of the way.

FightingIrish2012 said:

Probably none of the above. If any of those it was likely nerves but there are so many variables and randomness with the evals and the way they are graded it sucks but a large portion of it is mainly a crapshoot and luck. The evals are not the hardest problems but hard enough that anyone no matter how well prepared can have one really bad run, paired with a evaluator who stacks and compounds the mistakes, and walk away with a 20 basically dooming them the rest of the way.

Without going into details, ^ this. I will say that the evaluators are very fair and will call it as they see it.

FightingIrish2012 said:

Probably none of the above. If any of those it was likely nerves but there are so many variables and randomness with the evals and the way they are graded it sucks but a large portion of it is mainly a crapshoot and luck. The evals are not the hardest problems but hard enough that anyone no matter how well prepared can have one really bad run, paired with a evaluator who stacks and compounds the mistakes, and walk away with a 20 basically dooming them the rest of the way.

There’s some evaluators that wash out a lot too. Wether it’s because they’re are picky or they intimidate people it happens

Last two classes went 5/9 and 4/8, but the two before that went 9/9 and most of the classes recently have only lost 1 at most otherwise. Does no good to psych yourself out if you’re here at the academy, put your work in and things will be fine

flyingfin said:

Last two classes went 5/9 and 4/8, but the two before that went 9/9 and most of the classes recently have only lost 1 at most otherwise. Does no good to psych yourself out if you’re here at the academy, put your work in and things will be fine

Back in my day classes passed 5-6/16

My class list:

Anyone have strong opinions about these? I'm interested in details on MSN. I saw the previous comment on FAY.

AlphaVictorIndiaIndia said:

My class list:

FAY

MSN

FAY

CMI

ROW

MSN

TRI

LIT

Anyone have strong opinions about these? I'm interested in details on MSN. I saw the previous comment on FAY.

I’ve heard MSN has a rough culture and is difficult to check out at

did they really block this again...

wand_waver said:

I’ve heard MSN has a rough culture and is difficult to check out at

No idea about the staff. MSN used to be a cool little college town, now it’s become closer to what you’d expect to see in Portland or maybe Seattle

Motodog said:

No idea about the staff. MSN used to be a cool little college town, now it’s become closer to what you’d expect to see in Portland or maybe Seattle

Great for outdoor activities though. Tons of bike trails, lakes, and hiking nearby.