Training hold

[Maintainvfr]

Wait until you see what you have to do for stage 69

 

[32andBelow]

Wait until you see what you have to do for stage 69

Definitely don’t print strips that say N69420 when your practicing entering flight plans

 

[kombucha23]

Definitely don’t print strips that say N69420 when your practicing entering flight plans

FAA Registry - Aircraft - N-Number Inquiry

registry.faa.gov

Purge date comin’ up.

 

[CF]

FAA Registry - Aircraft - N-Number Inquiry

registry.faa.gov

Purge date comin’ up.

Hillsboro. Probably works at Nike or intel. I think both are by the airport.

 

[Soss]

Wtf! Call sign tests. That’s like stage 2 stuff.

CRE is Cream City and I want to thank the presumably 6 foot tall 120 pound Playboy model that came over comms and told me so.

 

[StealthChain]

This “virtual training” has 0 thought put into it. People in training doing call sign tests, 4 hours of zoom “class” a day, and if they end up doing a D/R class we will have to complete it again in person from the start when the facility opens.

welcome to hell

That does suck, but on the plus side, pass rates should be higher now right?!

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Check your emails! Trainees will be coming back prior to 120 days to maintain certification on positions they are already certified and then sent back. High risk employees have the option of coming in or getting decertified. If ATMs/supervisors think there is a reason for trainees to stay they can give their reasoning to RVPs (or something like that) and get approval to keep them at the facility working the positions they are certified on.

Seems like a lot of work at my facility to keep someone certified on flight data... But whatever. I guess it's less paperwork. No mention of ATAs

 

[Mike Kilo]

Check your emails! Trainees will be coming back prior to 120 days to maintain certification on positions they are already certified and then sent back. High risk employees have the option of coming in or getting decertified. If ATMs/supervisors think there is a reason for trainees to stay they can give their reasoning to RVPs (or something like that) and get approval to keep them at the facility working the positions they are certified on.

Seems like a lot of work at my facility to keep someone certified on flight data... But whatever. I guess it's less paperwork. No mention of ATAs

There goes my vacation! My facility will fight to keep me as staffing lol.

 

[Soss]

Got an email today to do a zoom call, so im basically gonna be a D1 in about 27 hours... nice knowing yall

 

[Stinger]

OJTI to resume in mid July.
There are 1224 controllers that are partially qualified with their 120 days from working position happening between July 19th and July 23rd. They'll be scheduled to come back and get their over-the-shoulder to regain certification, and then placed on a crew as needed.
The individuals that are high-risk, will not be forced to come back, but can if they want. If they elect to not come back and not complete their over-the-shoulder, and the 120 days lapse, they'll have to start over on the certification process and re-enter OJT. If they don't reach certification, they won't be eligible for the NEST and will be handled in accordance with the CBA.

Expect widespread OJT to resume by mid July.
The NEST placement did occur on June 11th. They will not be required to move and will instead be placed virtually. They can conduct virtual instruction from their present location, but will be expected to report to the facility once the OJT can officially resume.

NCEPT will occur towards the end of July.

No updates on use-or-lose leave getting extended. If you have leave to take, take it and don't expect anything over the 240 hours to roll over to next year.

 

[twn]

OJTI to resume in mid July.
There are 1224 controllers that are partially qualified with their 120 days from working position happening between July 19th and July 23rd. They'll be scheduled to come back and get their over-the-shoulder to regain certification, and then placed on a crew as needed.
The individuals that are high-risk, will not be forced to come back, but can if they want. If they elect to not come back and not complete their over-the-shoulder, and the 120 days lapse, they'll have to start over on the certification process and re-enter OJT. If they don't reach certification, they won't be eligible for the NEST and will be handled in accordance with the CBA.

Expect widespread OJT to resume by mid July.
The NEST placement did occur on June 11th. They will not be required to move and will instead be placed virtually. They can conduct virtual instruction from their present location, but will be expected to report to the facility once the OJT can officially resume.

NCEPT will occur towards the end of July.

No updates on use-or-lose leave getting extended. If you have leave to take, take it and don't expect anything over the 240 hours to roll over to next year.

Any source on this?

 

[32andBelow]

Any source on this?

Stinger is the source.

OJTI to resume in mid July.
There are 1224 controllers that are partially qualified with their 120 days from working position happening between July 19th and July 23rd. They'll be scheduled to come back and get their over-the-shoulder to regain certification, and then placed on a crew as needed.
The individuals that are high-risk, will not be forced to come back, but can if they want. If they elect to not come back and not complete their over-the-shoulder, and the 120 days lapse, they'll have to start over on the certification process and re-enter OJT. If they don't reach certification, they won't be eligible for the NEST and will be handled in accordance with the CBA.

Expect widespread OJT to resume by mid July.
The NEST placement did occur on June 11th. They will not be required to move and will instead be placed virtually. They can conduct virtual instruction from their present location, but will be expected to report to the facility once the OJT can officially resume.

NCEPT will occur towards the end of July.

No updates on use-or-lose leave getting extended. If you have leave to take, take it and don't expect anything over the 240 hours to roll over to next year.

With the expectation of reopening Z labs at this time or is this just for people that are in a position to train on the floor?

 

[ClearanceClarence]

With the expectation of reopening Z labs at this time or is this just for people that are in a position to train on the floor?

I don’t see how they could do widespread OJT without having the labs open. People are going to need time in there before starting up on the floor again.

This is definitely the most encouraging news we’ve heard so far though! It almost sounds like they realized online training was going to be way too hard to figure out, so they just said “we’ll just bring everybody back.” ?

 

[32andBelow]

I don’t see how they could do widespread OJT without having the labs open. People are going to need time in there before starting up on the floor again.

This is definitely the most encouraging news we’ve heard so far though! It almost sounds like they realized online training was going to be way too hard to figure out, so they just said “we’ll just bring everybody back.” ?

Well I mean for the people that are d1 or d3 or ready to start OJTI fresh out of the lab. Vs, us who need to run problems.

 

[FL747]

Email received.. It it just me, or does it completely fail to address the situation for people who have already hit their 120 days because they were in the classroom when this all fell apart?

 

[32andBelow]

Email received.. It it just me, or does it completely fail to address the situation for people who have already hit their 120 days because they were in the classroom when this all fell apart?

Oh it’s addressed. You need to retrain.

 

[Idkwhatimdoing]

OJTI to resume in mid July.
There are 1224 controllers that are partially qualified with their 120 days from working position happening between July 19th and July 23rd. They'll be scheduled to come back and get their over-the-shoulder to regain certification, and then placed on a crew as needed.
The individuals that are high-risk, will not be forced to come back, but can if they want. If they elect to not come back and not complete their over-the-shoulder, and the 120 days lapse, they'll have to start over on the certification process and re-enter OJT. If they don't reach certification, they won't be eligible for the NEST and will be handled in accordance with the CBA.

Expect widespread OJT to resume by mid July.
The NEST placement did occur on June 11th. They will not be required to move and will instead be placed virtually. They can conduct virtual instruction from their present location, but will be expected to report to the facility once the OJT can officially resume.

NCEPT will occur towards the end of July.

No updates on use-or-lose leave getting extended. If you have leave to take, take it and don't expect anything over the 240 hours to roll over to next year.

Any word on if this applies to AG people only checked out on flight data?

 

[FL747]

Oh it’s addressed. You need to retrain.

Well, technically, they only address what will happen to high-risk individuals who willingly choose to miss their 120day point.

Though I agree, the waiver they were dangling before this email is sounding less and less likely to materialize.

 

[Stinger]

Any source on this?

Manager's telecon with Teri Bristol, Tim Arel, and Jeff Vincent.

Any word on if this applies to AG people only checked out on flight data?

I'm fairly certain that Flight Data isn't a position that's tracked for currency. So if that's the case, it wouldn't affect you.

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

I'm fairly certain that Flight Data isn't a position that's tracked for currency. So if that's the case, it wouldn't affect you.

Yes it is. You need an hour of data per month.