I thought TSEW was a two week course, but I read somewhere else that it’s four. How long is it? Do all transfers that only have level 8 and below experience still have to go to it? Is TETRA only for N90 folks? What do you learn in each? Is each one pass/fail? Any other info. you all may have is appreciated. Thanks!
TSEW and TETRA, what’s the difference?
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SquawkHijack
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TSEW is for anyone transferring to a terminal radar facility of lvl 9 and above. You are correct in presuming that TETRA is an N90 specific course. N90 is typically a pass/fail as it is a selection factor for being able to report to N90 to enter training. TSEW is not and can never be pass/fail since it is technically a workshop, (Terminal Radar Skill Enhancement Workshop.) Now, the main difference between the two is that TSEW furthers on RTF in that it focuses on class bravo service area elements and running a final using “C to A” techniques. TETRA focuses on that but with some more small nuances that require just a bit more situational awareness during periods of high traffic load, it is debated to be an irrelevant course altogether. As for course lengths I’m not sure. Hope this helps!
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You use it all the time most likely without knowing you are using it. Essentially, it's just talking about the spacing between number 1 and number 3 in a sequence so number 2 fits in between.
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C to A is a sequencing technique in which you have aircraft A in front of aircraft C on final with a decent gap in between. “C to A” focuses on fitting aircraft B in between them from a downwind/base turn in different weight category and speed situations. They touch on it a tiny bit at RTF depending on instructors but TSEW has official focus on it.
WOW. Thank you. A competent being- refreshing. I really thought “C to A” was something I haven’t heard of with ACTUAL meaning and a game changer. Turns out it’s just BS lingo again trying to make the job sound more complex than it actually is. I love all the type A personalities up in here thinking they’re dope as F by answering Q’s by creating more Q’s, puffing their chests up thinking they’re making a difference in this world. This forum must be full of supervisors.
Thanks. I appreciate it!
It's a little more than that especially when it comes to feeding because you have an A aircraft and a C aircraft and if you have 20 or so miles between your A and C you have to determine how many aircraft in the downwind or on base can fit between them when they get on final and when you as a feeder have to start vectoring guys out to build space so you don't overload the final box and force final to extend outside their airspace.
Pretty much a useless course for most of the radars I've seen, but apparently C90 developed the technique so maybe pretty busy places actually use it 🤷♂️
Also both TSEW and TETRA are about a month long. TSEW could be two weeks but idk much about what is actually taught in TETRA other than it's a much busier version of TSEW and RTF and that it is pass fail
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