DCA what is going on

[Rx]

Well what they did just made things worse.

32andbelow is the Gary Busey of Steve Buscemis when it comes to hot takes. Just cross eyed for no reason. Closing a runway to jam other runways is madness.

 

[32andBelow]

32andbelow is the Gary Busey of Steve Buscemis when it comes to hot takes. Just cross eyed for no reason. Closing a runway to jam other runways is madness.

They’ll probably force the fatigue memo at this point. We keep just having huge deals

 

[KiloZulu]

32andbelow is the Gary Busey of Steve Buscemis when it comes to hot takes. Just cross eyed for no reason. Closing a runway to jam other runways is madness.

What's the solution then? Genuinely asking because idk anything about crossing runways ops

 

[Rx]

What's the solution then? Genuinely asking because idk anything about crossing runways ops

Keep it open and play by the rules.

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

What's the solution then? Genuinely asking because idk anything about crossing runways ops

I’m no expert, but I’d recommend not clearing an aircraft for takeoff while another aircraft is short final for the crossing runway.

 

[Somenewguy]

I’m no expert, but I’d recommend not clearing an aircraft for takeoff while another aircraft is short final for the crossing runway.

Coward

 

[TangoBearFox]

I’m no expert, but I’d recommend not clearing an aircraft for takeoff while another aircraft is short final for the crossing runway.

 

[RalphBeast]

Not a tower controller here, but who ends up at DCA? As a level 9 tower, it's not eligible for academy grads. I was in the DCA area 4 years ago and was absolutely shocked at how expensive it was. Level 9 pay out there is basically survival wages.

If you want to transfer to the DC area, why the f**k would you want to go to DCA when ZDC and Potomac TRACON are level 12s? If anything, the best thing they could do is lower DCA to an 8 so it's eligible for academy grads vs only getting the absolute cream of the crap desperate bottom of the barrel F- transfers.

 

[32andBelow]

Not a tower controller here, but who ends up at DCA? As a level 9 tower, it's not eligible for academy grads. I was in the DCA area 4 years ago and was absolutely shocked at how expensive it was. Level 9 pay out there is basically survival wages.

If you want to transfer to the DC area, why the f**k would you want to go to DCA when ZDC and Potomac TRACON are level 12s? If anything, the best thing they could do is lower DCA to an 8 so it's eligible for academy grads vs only getting the absolute cream of the crap desperate bottom of the barrel F- transfers.

Your idea is to lower their level and not just get rid of the made up AG tower placement rule?

 

[Spoony90]

Not a tower controller here, but who ends up at DCA? As a level 9 tower, it's not eligible for academy grads. I was in the DCA area 4 years ago and was absolutely shocked at how expensive it was. Level 9 pay out there is basically survival wages.

If you want to transfer to the DC area, why the f**k would you want to go to DCA when ZDC and Potomac TRACON are level 12s? If anything, the best thing they could do is lower DCA to an 8 so it's eligible for academy grads vs only getting the absolute cream of the crap desperate bottom of the barrel F- transfers.

The people who wash out of ZDC and Potomac Tracon and don’t wanna leave the area

 

[SunnyATC]

TCI is broken. Doesn’t really account for complexity but weighted heavily towards volume. SFO and DCA are prime examples.

 

[Homsar]

TCI is broken. Doesn’t really account for complexity but weighted heavily towards volume. SFO and DCA are prime examples.

I would argue the opposite, at least when it comes to busy GA VFR towers. You need to have 8-10+ in the pattern for most of the day to sustain a level 9 at airports like DVT and FFZ, because the TCI doesn’t think balancing that many aircraft in the pattern with itinerant arrivals/departures is “complex.”

 

[SunnyATC]

I would argue the opposite, at least when it comes to busy GA VFR towers. You need to have 8-10+ in the pattern for most of the day to sustain a level 9 at airports like DVT and FFZ, because the TCI doesn’t think balancing that many aircraft in the pattern with itinerant arrivals/departures is “complex.”

I agree with that statement as well.

 

[KP-ATC]

I would argue the opposite, at least when it comes to busy GA VFR towers. You need to have 8-10+ in the pattern for most of the day to sustain a level 9 at airports like DVT and FFZ, because the TCI doesn’t think balancing that many aircraft in the pattern with itinerant arrivals/departures is “complex.”

To be fair, there are plenty of times where controllers make it more complex than it needs to be.

 

[Spiralbox21]

Yea the TCI needs updating on each airport individually. Each airport has their own issues that need addressing that make their job more difficult.

 

[PooseMaGoose]

Yea the TCI needs updating on each airport individually. Each airport has their own issues that need addressing that make their job more difficult.

They should evaluate the quality of coworkers for TCI.. if a facility has an abnormal amount of retards working traffic there, it definitely ups the complexity.

Say for instance a facility was on the fence between 8 and 9… then 32andbelow shows up, it should be a 9.

 

[pedaNTIc]

Say for instance a facility was on the fence between 8 and 9… then 32andbelow shows up, it should be a 9.

It should be a fucking 22 then

 

[32andBelow]

They should evaluate the quality of coworkers for TCI.. if a facility has an abnormal amount of retards working traffic there, it definitely ups the complexity.

Say for instance a facility was on the fence between 8 and 9… then 32andbelow shows up, it should be a 9.

Is that supposed to be a burn that I think controllers should get paid more?