It's Over (Finally)

Soul_Controller said:
Well, what did he do about that last time? Jack shit? Stop grading white people on a curve
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32andBelow said:
He made it worse because the trump tax cuts did nothing to fix it.
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The original question was: In your opinion, is federal spending currently acceptable and sustainable?

The answers: tRumP iS BaD and WAHHHH RaCiSm.

You jackasses are incapable of talking about ANYTHING without projecting your bullshit ideology into it. I'm not talking about Trump. I'm not talking about race. We all still don't know your thoughts on the point of the question.. what do you think of our current federal spending levels? Fucking hell you are intolerable.
 
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PooseMaGoose said:
The original question was: In your opinion, is federal spending currently acceptable and sustainable?

The answers: tRumP iS BaD and WAHHHH RaCiSm.

You jackasses are incapable of talking about ANYTHING without projecting your bullshit ideology into it. I'm not talking about Trump. I'm not talking about race. We all still don't know your thoughts on the point of the question.. what do you think of our current federal spending levels? Fucking hell you are intolerable.
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I’m not debating with you. Trump is bad. He’s told you he’s bad. He’s told you what he’s going to do.
 
32andBelow said:
I’m not debating with you. Trump is bad. He’s told you he’s bad. He’s told you what he’s going to do.
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I'm not trying to debate with you. YOU brought trump up. I am asking if you think federal spending is too high or if you are happy with how things are going. Seriously, what is your problem?
 
PooseMaGoose said:
I'm not trying to debate with you. YOU brought trump up. I am asking if you think federal spending is too high or if you are happy with how things are going. Seriously, what is your problem?
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I bring up things that trump has actually said

But Biden is better
  • President Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new ten-year borrowing during his full term in office, or $4.8 trillion excluding the CARES Act and other COVID relief.
  • President Biden, in his first three years and five months in office, approved $4.3 trillion of new ten-year borrowing, or $2.2 trillion excluding the American Rescue Plan.
 
PooseMaGoose said:
The original question was: In your opinion, is federal spending currently acceptable and sustainable?

The answers: tRumP iS BaD and WAHHHH RaCiSm.

You jackasses are incapable of talking about ANYTHING without projecting your bullshit ideology into it. I'm not talking about Trump. I'm not talking about race. We all still don't know your thoughts on the point of the question.. what do you think of our current federal spending levels? Fucking hell you are intolerable.
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no it it not sustainable.


What are your thoughts on where we can reduce the budget to make any kind of impact? id like to hear it.
 
32andBelow said:
I bring up things that trump has actually said

But Biden is better
  • President Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new ten-year borrowing during his full term in office, or $4.8 trillion excluding the CARES Act and other COVID relief.
  • President Biden, in his first three years and five months in office, approved $4.3 trillion of new ten-year borrowing, or $2.2 trillion excluding the American Rescue Plan.
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Again, not interested in your opinion on Trump. You are incapable of simple comprehension. Whether that's by choice or not is the only remaining mystery.
 
PooseMaGoose said:
Again, not interested in your opinion on Trump. You are incapable of simple comprehension. Whether that's by choice or not is the only remaining mystery.
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It’s not an opinion. He said with his own mouth it’s gonna get ugly.

Then I gave you the numbers that said Biden spends less
 
Ad1234 said:
no it it not sustainable.


What are your thoughts on where we can reduce the budget to make any kind of impact? id like to hear it.
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Fair question. I think it's a very complex issue that needs more fixing than "reduced spending" can offer alone. But in a simple world, I think a lot of funding could be cut out of various departments because we see a lot of overlap/duplication. We need to stop sending hundreds of billions overseas. We need to fund our military well of COURSE, but not overfund it. Are we able to maintain military preeminence with less than we spend now? You bet we can. Why are we ok with the pentagon failing the last 6 audits (maybe it's 7 now) worth TRILLIONS.

Education is another interesting one. It's been proven time and time again that more money does not equal more success. I'd like a reassessment of what is working instead of just throwing money at shit that hasn't worked for decades.

The Gov. Accountability Office alone releases annual reports identifying areas that save hundreds of billions of dollars just by finding duplication and overlap. We need more of THAT.

I don't think it's as simple as saying "cut funding from XYZ and ABC." There are a ton of areas which have more overlap, duplication, and antiquated processes that cost us billions. I want those areas identified and rectified.
 
PooseMaGoose said:
You jackasses are incapable of talking about ANYTHING without projecting your bullshit ideology into it. I'm not talking about Trump. I'm not talking about race. We all still don't know your thoughts on the point of the question.. what do you think of our current federal spending levels? Fucking hell you are intolerable.
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95% of this thread was civil disagreement, then you barge in with this unhinged rage.

Seriously, get bent.
 
PooseMaGoose said:
Fair question. I think it's a very complex issue that needs more fixing than "reduced spending" can offer alone. But in a simple world, I think a lot of funding could be cut out of various departments because we see a lot of overlap/duplication. We need to stop sending hundreds of billions overseas. We need to fund our military well of COURSE, but not overfund it. Are we able to maintain military preeminence with less than we spend now? You bet we can. Why are we ok with the pentagon failing the last 6 audits (maybe it's 7 now) worth TRILLIONS.

Education is another interesting one. It's been proven time and time again that more money does not equal more success. I'd like a reassessment of what is working instead of just throwing money at shit that hasn't worked for decades.

The Gov. Accountability Office alone releases annual reports identifying areas that save hundreds of billions of dollars just by finding duplication and overlap. We need more of THAT.

I don't think it's as simple as saying "cut funding from XYZ and ABC." There are a ton of areas which have more overlap, duplication, and antiquated processes that cost us billions. I want those areas identified and rectified.
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imagine if a politician simply said, my first order of business would be to remove fraud, waste and abuse from the existing federal budget before i cut anything. that person would most likely win in a land slide, because those three things occur everywhere. but instead cutting the irs and dept of ed or the DOD is the blanket statement but when all have a legitimate function, whether you like to admit it or not.
 
Just saw a video posted by Natca Great Lakes from Nick, Mick, and Drew at a Disaster Response Committee fundraiser in Chicago from last night... I didn't realize how short Nick is. I realize that has nothing to do with anything but it's better than the politics you guys are discussing.
 

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