It's Over (Finally)

[echster]

It's Nick & Mick.

Emails have been sent to members. Almost 7,000 ballots cast this round. About 800 more ballots than the first go-around.

 

[Phillyman2633]

Lmao LennyA21 probably flipping more undecided to ND than to Santa

 

[jorgeluis161]

Lmao LennyA21 probably flipping more undecided to ND than to Santa

And he can't admit that...

 

[Phanatical]

I’m confident that Lenny and his Reddit crowd cost Rich the election. Too much hate and vitriol.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

I’m confident that Lenny and his Reddit crowd cost Rich the election. Too much hate and vitriol.

No way lol. Rich sucked as a President is what cost him the election, controllers have never been worse off.

Reddit cost Jamal and one or two RBP's their election by highlighting all their shenanigans and incompetence. Look at how many people who split their vote and voted for Mick over Jamal. Mick was way fuller of "vitriol and hate" then Santa. If that was a factor it would have caused Mick to get less votes than Santa.

 

[Soul_Controller]

No way lol. Rich sucked as a President is what cost him the election, controllers have never been worse off.

Reddit cost Jamal and one or two RBP's their election by highlighting all their shenanigans and incompetence. Look at how many people who split their vote and voted for Mick over Jamal. Mick was way fuller of "vitriol and hate" then Santa. If that was a factor it would have caused Mick to get less votes than Santa.

I think this is a pretty good reading of things. If there is discontent with the union then Rich was going to have a hard time. Somehow the way-too-online contingent managed to smooth brain their way into voting the incumbent for change. But it never really made sense, and still had to compete with Nick's very big real life presence.

And I gotta do it because no one else's will. Jamal lost because he's black.

 

[32andBelow]

I think this is a pretty good reading of things. If there is discontent with the union then Rich was going to have a hard time. Somehow the way-too-online contingent managed to smooth brain their way into voting the incumbent for change. But it never really made sense, and still had to compete with Nick's very big real life presence.

And I gotta do it because no one else's will. Jamal lost because he's black.

Nick was def an insider we can’t act like it was some big outside change force. The RVP mob he ran probably had more power than anyone.

 

[Soul_Controller]

Nick was def an insider we can’t act like it was some big outside change force. The RVP mob he ran probably had more power than anyone.

I get the argument but I never thought it was a winning argument.

 

[32andBelow]

I get the argument but I never thought it was a winning argument.

Most of us here voted for change with JD and Redmond. Then after that everyone had to decide what to do next.

 

[KP-ATC]

I think this is a pretty good reading of things. If there is discontent with the union then Rich was going to have a hard time. Somehow the way-too-online contingent managed to smooth brain their way into voting the incumbent for change. But it never really made sense, and still had to compete with Nick's very big real life presence.

And I gotta do it because no one else's will. Jamal lost because he's black.

Jamal lost because he is a mental midget

 

[LennyA21]

I’m just excited for my MOU raises, those will be coming in November right?

 

[Move78]

Nick was def an insider we can’t act like it was some big outside change force. The RVP mob he ran probably had more power than anyone.

Idk where you get fed your bullshit from but mick and rich have been controlling literally everything important for years. NCEPT NEST ABACUS NVT.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

I’m just excited for my MOU raises, those will be coming in November right?

November 4th

 

[Gauff]

November 4th

Remember remember the 4th(?) of November

 

[Phillytroll69]

Good thing we went to a different part of the same side of the same coin.

One year from january to get a band adjustment, raise, or hazard pay left or I'm out.

Reason-wages haven't kept up with inflation.

There's a lot of issues BUT I'm at the point where I'd rather my dues get refunded me and cfs and the convention are virtual.

 

[boots]

I’m just excited for my MOU raises, those will be coming in November right?

Are these going to be the same ones FatPorrey promised was coming 20x over? You know another rich puppet or was that your alternate account?

 

[jorgeluis161]

Are these going to be the same ones FatPorrey promised was coming 20x over? You know another rich puppet or was that your alternate account?

I'm pretty sure that was his alt account.... Lenny like that Fat F(@& need to go away. Way to cost Rich the election fool

 

[Phillytroll69]

I'm pretty sure that was his alt account.... Lenny like that Fat F(@& need to go away. Way to cost Rich the election fool

I think the 'costing the election' was a failure to provide covid vaccine guidance, forcing facilities to open for business even when it wasn't safe by the map they negotiated. IE high covid in king county but since it's summer let's open up king artcc and airport.

Also, no significant raises, 'collaborative' events such as our new fatigue schedule, etc. People weren't happy with the results.

Luckily we got someone who was also there and supported all of it (until the election when suddenly rich wasn't doing a good job)

 

[jorgeluis161]

I think the 'costing the election' was a failure to provide covid vaccine guidance, forcing facilities to open for business even when it wasn't safe by the map they negotiated. IE high covid in king county but since it's summer let's open up king artcc and airport.

Also, no significant raises, 'collaborative' events such as our new fatigue schedule, etc. People weren't happy with the results.

Luckily we got someone who was also there and supported all of it (until the election when suddenly rich wasn't doing a good job)

Both choices weren't great... But ATC2 and Lenny specifically were annoying asf and the vial and hate spewed by him and ATC2 didn't help Santa... I think and what I've read it actually motived people to vote for Nick.

 

[Phillytroll69]

Both choices weren't great... But ATC2 and Lenny specifically were annoying asf and the vial and hate spewed by him and ATC2 didn't help Santa... I think and what I've read it actually motived people to vote for Nick.

Yeah I don't disagree but I think the ultimate flip was how big region x showed up. That being said..what happens now? Does rich go back to his facility? I felt like Rich did really well in front of congress and everything....but the other union leaders aren't out there in suits in front of congress--they look like working people

I'm expecting basically our union to continue to function as a social club and help implement the agencies ideas....like it has been