That’s confusing. Is B becoming a FLM in the same facility? Or the two are departing to the same facilityAre controllers promoted to managment still bound by this MOU? I believe it says they are.
Controller A accepts an offer for an ERR.
Controller B accepts offer to be a supe after Controller A within Controller B's facility.
Controller B starts supe duties before Controller A's release.
Is this violating the MOU? If so, what is the recourse for Controller A?
I’ll dig in later, but I believe temp supes in the same facility aren’t subject to the release policyController B is becoming a supe in the facility that Controller A & B work at. Controller A is going to a different facility on an ERR.
Might want to check your email. NATCA has agreed to conduct the NCEPT every 3 months starting with this November.If you're referring to ERR paperwork, the deadline is Sep 17 and the panel will occur on October 18 (you can also remove unwanted ERRs all the way up until that date)
They can ask for a deviation, but it will be denied.We just certified a new controller today. Which will place my facility into a CAT 1. So my question to you all is, per the NRP I am to be released within 3 months unless I choose to go later. My manager has been known to ask for a waiver to this release time frame. Can my manager delay my date longer than the 3 months as per the NRP? I apologize in advance if this question has been answered before.
Is there some sort of justification he can use? Only reason why I'm asking is that a person who was selected as a CAT 1 from the June NCEPT had a deviation to leave in Jan 2019. Only asking to see if he will have a leg to stand on.Hey can ask for a deviation, but it will be denied.
Lack of trainers/CIC etc. What was the other for?Is there some sort of justification he can use? Only reason why I'm asking is that a person who was selected as a CAT 1 from the June NCEPT had a deviation to leave in Jan 2019. Only asking to see if he will have a leg to stand on.
B should be given an FLM effective date after A's release date.Are controllers promoted to managment still bound by this MOU? I believe it says they are.
Controller A accepts an offer for an ERR.
Controller B accepts offer to be a supe after Controller A within Controller B's facility.
Controller B starts supe duties before Controller A's release.
Is this violating the MOU? If so, what is the recourse for Controller A?
Two people were selected CAT 1. If both left we would be at 9 CPCs. I'm not aware of the reasoning. Guess I'll find out in a few weeks what my new date will be. Hoping before Jan 6th. Also we are currently above 90% projected cpc range.Lack of trainers/CIC etc. What was the other for?
Should fall in line with any existing releases. If you've got someone selected off NCEPT with a January release date, and the new sup accepts the position today, their release date should happen after the already established January date for the other person.If a BUE bids on a supe job, is their release based on when the job was posted or when they signed paperwork accepting the job? I'm wondering if some BUEs at my facility are getting to skip some ERRs.
I'm not sure...the situation I know of is a couple controllers were selected of NCEPT with a 1 year release date. Another controller was selected from within the current facility to be a supervisor at the current facility. The effective date of the promotion is after the NCEPT selections release date.Well they are not. I was denied an early release and now two people are coming off the floor to be supes. They're off the schedule, and AFAIK, no deviation or waiver was approved. Is there a way to force my early release through now? It's just for a month and a half early.
I thought in order to be eligible to ERR you had to have a valid medicalIf a medically disqualified controller who is not counted in our numbers puts in for an ERR and gets picked up at the next NCEPT panel, does that count against the number of people we can release for that panel?
Oh that’s a new one... so they aren’t counted in current numbers because the projected medical dq is for an extended period?If a medically disqualified controller who is not counted in our numbers puts in for an ERR and gets picked up at the next NCEPT panel, does that count against the number of people we can release for that panel?
Oh that’s a new one... so they aren’t counted in current numbers because the projected medical dq is for an extended period?
Not part of the question, but if they were selected, part of the TOL process is valid clearances. I don’t see how they would be allowed to transfer being DQ.
I don't think anything addresses this scenario exactly, but the NCEPT releases still apply to both. My guess is it would be handled individually, based on what the DM wants to do.Also, I know you can try to ERR as a CPC-IT and it’s after everyone else and hopefully the new facility selects you — so in that case do they have to let you go too?
So then my real question kind of related to the above one, still CPC-IT, bid on a non-good time job in DC or OKC and are actually selected (long shot and unlikely but just entertain me here), is it the same thing, just withdraw from training and they have to let you go to the new job? Or can they deny it?