It delayed me 2 years.The ban has my vote. This exact thing cost me a spot at DFW.
Granted, I know I'm at the extreme end and it would never happen, but how many of those situations arise in the few weeks prior to the panel meeting vs occurring well before and the person not caring enough about their co-workers to remove their ERRs? With a current pregnant wife, I don't believe that's a viable excuse. With Cat 1 releases having a 3-6 months window and Cat 2 releases having a 1 year window, you have an ample window to either move to your next location and find a new OBGYN/hospital or have the kid and still not move til they're 6+ weeks old. Not to mention you have 3 months of FMLA leave at your disposal which you can use prior to the birth or after (it's a wonderful thing).There are situations in which a person could decline an offer... Maybe a pregnancy or a family living situation, so a permanent ban would not be acceptable, but a 1 year would be in my eyes. If you turn down because of something similar to the above mentioned scenarios, the situation would not magically disappear after 2 or 3 months for the next NCEPT panel.
Positions offered: it mentions that former FAA developmental controllers rehired within 1 year of separation are eligible.Speaking of direct hires, how about the new N90 direct hire posting
But it also says field failures won't be considered. I was rather confused by the postingPositions offered: it mentions that former FAA developmental controllers rehired within 1 year of separation are eligible.
So anyone that has failed out of facilities in the last year are eligible to go direct N90 I guess.
Edit: probably not I guess...still need 1 year of post certification experience. Gotta only be a handful of people that achieve cpc and then get NESTed out of their next two facilities.
It delayed me 2 years
A person backing out and we could only release one.Is that from NCEPT? Or a person backing out of a round where only one could be released?
I say make them go with no return rights. Good luck at N90 or LAX, see ya!A person backing out and we could only release one.
I'm curious who those 3 are here. A few come to mind4 out of 5 "crappy military controllers" that I know have got certified at N90.... 3 out of 3 at A80.
A80-From 2010 until the end of 2016 (no one that was in a training status at the end of 2016 was counted).I'll try to cross-reference when I get to work later to find out how many have been successful, but since 2013, N90 has washed out 31 direct hires. 24 of which didn't progress past the first stage of training. A80 has washed out 4.
For some perspective, I spoke with someone who was on the taskforce who evaluated N90 and their training program a few years ago, one stat has stuck with me all this time. CPC's who transferred to N90 from level 7 towers and below with no radar experience had a 97% wash out rate. They simply don't have the time and resources to work with people directly out of the academy.3. For N90, or C90, CPCs that want to transfer there get priority, but for now, continue to fill both of them with AAC grads. Yes, you are going to lose a lot of them, but that's the cost of business. 20,000 people applied this last panel, I'm sure plenty of them would be willing to give those facilities a try
For some perspective, I spoke with someone who was on the taskforce who evaluated N90 and their training program a few years ago, one stat has stuck with me all this time. CPC's who transferred to N90 from level 7 towers and below with no radar experience had a 97% wash out rate. They simply don't have the time and resources to work with people directly out of the academy.
I wish I had access to the full report. I can't even cross reference the washout stat from the last page, all I could find today dated back to early 2015 in terms of N90 placement.Interesting statistic. How does that compare to academy grads that would go through Basics, RTF, and then TSEW before going there?