2024 NATCA Election & The Purple and Light Blue CBAs

[Phillytroll69]

punching a fellow bargaining unit member in the face?

Never posted the video. If anyone has it send it to me I'll scrub all the exif data

 

[showmethemoney]

Hello,

I know there has been no activity under this thread for a while not - Was there any update on the negotiations for the purple/light blue book? Tia

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Hello,

I know there has been no activity under this thread for a while not - Was there any update on the negotiations for the purple/light blue book? Tia

It’s going to mediation and then arbitration because the FAA won’t agree to one dollar in pay increases.

 

[showmethemoney]

It’s going to mediation and then arbitration because the FAA won’t agree to one dollar in pay increases.

Wow FAA is so damn cheap. Most other industries are receiving giant pay raises. Whatever happened to the “most union friendly administration”? Anyways.., now I don’t see any chance since Trump is going to be in power now.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Whatever happened to the “most union friendly administration”? Anyways.., now I don’t see any chance since Trump is going to be in power now.

The purple book proves there was no chance under the Biden administration either. At least not without an arbitration ruling. And who knows what NATCA is even asking for there. Maybe a 3% raise since they think that will given them a better chance to “win” lol.

 

[echster]

I'll fall on this sword and say I was wrong... not yet at mediation or arbitration (but likely heading there). Highlights below are mine.

Was forwarded this email from a member updating them on the negotiations:

November 13, 2024

Region X and Staff Support Specialists CBA

Sisters and Brothers,

Since our last update, the Parties have continued to remain in active bargaining, with all remaining issues from our focused negotiations currently on the table. Your negotiations team has been working diligently to draft counters to management proposals to keep the pace of these sessions moving.

As mentioned previously, we have concluded negotiations on the national Memoranda of Understanding that will be carried forward into the successor Agreement. In the last few weeks, we have been able to “tentatively agree upon” (TAU) four additional Articles, leaving eight Articles outstanding.

Of these last Articles, four have an economic component and have significant interconnectivity. We have been intentional on how to tackle these issues in order to facilitate progress. We are optimistic that the other four Articles, which are primarily industrial issues, can be TAU’d soon as well.

As always, we will continue to provide updates as best we can.

In Solidarity,

Andrew LeBovidge
Chief Negotiator

Mark Rausch
Region X Regional Vice President

Nicole Vitale
NATCA Director of Labor Relations

Corey Glaze
NATCA Local ENM

Jordan Klein
NATCA Local N90

Lisen Minetti
NATCA Local EAC

Ed Szczuka
NATCA Local ECE

 

[showmethemoney]

I'll fall on this sword and say I was wrong... not yet at mediation or arbitration (but likely heading there). Highlights below are mine.

Was forwarded this email from a member updating them on the negotiations:

November 13, 2024

Region X and Staff Support Specialists CBA

Sisters and Brothers,

Since our last update, the Parties have continued to remain in active bargaining, with all remaining issues from our focused negotiations currently on the table. Your negotiations team has been working diligently to draft counters to management proposals to keep the pace of these sessions moving.

As mentioned previously, we have concluded negotiations on the national Memoranda of Understanding that will be carried forward into the successor Agreement. In the last few weeks, we have been able to “tentatively agree upon” (TAU) four additional Articles, leaving eight Articles outstanding.

Of these last Articles, four have an economic component and have significant interconnectivity. We have been intentional on how to tackle these issues in order to facilitate progress. We are optimistic that the other four Articles, which are primarily industrial issues, can be TAU’d soon as well.

As always, we will continue to provide updates as best we can.

In Solidarity,

Andrew LeBovidge
Chief Negotiator

Mark Rausch
Region X Regional Vice President

Nicole Vitale
NATCA Director of Labor Relations

Corey Glaze
NATCA Local ENM

Jordan Klein
NATCA Local N90

Lisen Minetti
NATCA Local EAC

Ed Szczuka
NATCA Local ECE

So, basically FAA not agreeing to any sort of pay increase. Smh

 

[Shikaka]

So, basically FAA not agreeing to any sort of pay increase. Smh

4 have economic impact with significant interconnectivity

 

[DankVectorz]

Hopefully they’re just like “look, you lost the election, we’re all fucked now anyway, just give us 25%”

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

Forgive me for my ignorance about labor negotiations, but why won’t they just straight up say the articles being debated? Why does there need to be secrecy about that?

 

[Horno]

Forgive me for my ignorance about labor negotiations, but why won’t they just straight up say the articles being debated? Why does there need to be secrecy about that?

It’s not NATCA if they’re not secretive about everything

 

[Termine]

My dad is in a union and they let members come and observe bargaining sessions. Since COVID I think they're also live-streamed. NATCA gonna NATCA though.

 

[32andBelow]

Forgive me for my ignorance about labor negotiations, but why won’t they just straight up say the articles being debated? Why does there need to be secrecy about that?

Yah idk. You see other unions on cnn saying exactly what they are asking for. Seems to work for them

 

[ATC Zero]

It’s not NATCA if they’re not secretive about everything

Right meanwhile all of the real unions have every line item available and it’s being displayed on national news. NATCA loves its secrets so much it blindsided the members with an extension that wasn’t voted on. Imagine if they would have stepped up to the plate in 2021 we would all be in a better financial place but oh we got you 5/5 schedules back in 2020 be happy with that.

 

[showmethemoney]

So, basically FAA not agreeing to any sort of pay increase. Smh

One of my friend who works in region x told me there was some union meeting yesterday. He told me there would be a vote on December 4 and if the members agree to the contracts then it will all be done before the new administration in January.

 

[Kramer]

Yah idk. You see other unions on cnn saying exactly what they are asking for. Seems to work for them

Natca is not a real union. Social club with no leverage as evidenced by not benefiting by the "most labor friendly" presidency in recent history

 

[ATC Zero]

One of my friend who works in region x told me there was some union meeting yesterday. He told me there would be a vote on December 4 and if the members agree to the contracts then it will all be done before the new administration in January.

That will be interesting when the SSS giving you a verbal briefing is making more money than all of us plugging in. It’s going to get interesting for sure.

 

[32andBelow]

That will be interesting when the SSS giving you a verbal briefing is making more money than all of us plugging in. It’s going to get interesting for sure.

If they actually got a raise copy and pasting it over is probably the best and easiest route to accomplish in 1 month 🫣

 

[ATC Zero]

If they actually got a raise copy and pasting it over is probably the best and easiest route to accomplish in 1 month 🫣

Agreed, or put all three contracts into one

 

[Move78]

If they actually got a raise copy and pasting it over is probably the best and easiest route to accomplish in 1 month 🫣

This could be done via…… MOU