Airservices Australia Recruiting Initiative
- Thread starter +TSRA
- Start date
32andBelow
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 10,631
n0vemberh0tel
Active Member
- Messages
- 68
This.
Lets say you have 8 years or more ATC expereince, youll start at 127k USD, based on RUS locality thats 7k more than the top of the pay band for level 6 controllers. Work there for 2 years and your pay goes to 145k which is just shy of the top of a level 8 pay band. No one is capping out their pay band in the FAA in 10 years. Realistically after 2 years you're making the same as most RUS level 9/10 controllers.
So far it’s like .07% of the workforce going for this. More people quit per month
ajmezz
Forum Sage
- Messages
- 964
You keep making comments like this trying to brush off the overall significance. While that .07% might not look like a big deal by itself, that’s another handful of qualified controllers leaving an already severely understaffed workforce. Every little bit adds up.
Definitely does add up
HurryUpandWait
Forum Sage
- Messages
- 551
More pay for many.
It’s only going to get higher as the reports come in from people who have left. some of them are already there and starting their training and, if the feedback is positive, it’s only going to start a snowball. Don’t be fucking retarded. This absolutely is a critical issue.
Before, people might leave the agency for a year to take fat contract working in Afghanistan, Iraq etc. maybe, if they had great connections, they might have landed a job at Dubai. Never before has there been an effort to poach another English speaking countries controllers, where they are actually taking it. If they get 50 people, that’s four or 5 facilities. That’s a whole area at a center. That’s millions of taxpayer dollars spent hiring and training these people to have them walk out the door. You better fucking believe it matters
Last edited:
buffalochickenqueefadilla
Trusted Contributor
- Messages
- 69
Where are you even getting this number?
32andBelow
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 10,631
It’s CPCs at the prime of their career tho. It’s not retirees or trainees
FightingIrish2012
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 2,028
We need Australia to be just the start. Hopefully Canada does it next, you are not going to find 100 people to go to AUS, but you might find 200 to go to Canada. Then hopefully some European countries do the same and pull in new CPC’s formally in the military who are not tied down here yet, and are used to and still open to exploring the works. You could cumulatively lose 500 controllers in their prime.
But_I_Had_Visual
Trusted Contributor
- Messages
- 135
Vancouver by itself would have more than 200 people trying to move there. I don’t foresee Canada trying this in the current political climate though.
buffalochickenqueefadilla
Trusted Contributor
- Messages
- 69
Excellent , im asking where he's getting this number ,not what kind of CPCs. I know the exact number and it's NOT .07%, nor is it even within a 200% margin of error, so i was curious since he seems to be guessing.
Cost of living would be the killer. Housing prices are out of control there. Unless you could sell a house in like the Bay Area or other HCOL area and reinvest. I think it’s easily over 1 million for even a basic house.
It's the same here, people stuck at lower level facilities can double their pay with a paid move to Melbourne or Brisbane and have a complete improvement in just about every aspect of their career. Makes no sense for higher levels, unless they start gutting benefits, but if I was still at a 5 I'd go in a heartbeat.
No you don’t
- Messages
- 2,233
- Facility
- N90 New York Tracon
Unless you’re planning on coming back to the US fairly quickly, comparing salaries in AUD vs USD exchange rate is pointless. You want to compare purchasing power parity (basically cost of living comparison)
Here is a good sight that compares PPP based off cities. For example I compared $132,000 USD (US ATC average-ish) in Philadelphia to Sydney. To have the same purchasing power you’d have make $189,000 AUD.
Here is a good sight that compares PPP based off cities. For example I compared $132,000 USD (US ATC average-ish) in Philadelphia to Sydney. To have the same purchasing power you’d have make $189,000 AUD.
Last edited:
Stinger
Forum Sage
- Messages
- 1,526
That site is garbage. I used a salary of 174,000 in each Oklahoma City, New York City, Tampa, and Miami and it gave me the "equivalent" of 250,382 for Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide.
There's no way.
