Enroute Class pass rate

Hope said:

8/31 Enroute List
ZLA
ZLA
ZME
ZME
ZMA
ZJX
ZAU
ZOB
ZID
ZDC
ZDC
ZAB
ZAB
ZMA

ALTs:
ZNY
ZNY
ZAN
ZAN
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class went 6/13. 3 dropped to back class due to COVID. 2 are headed to ZOA. So really the two choices are ZLA and ZME

Hope said:

Class went 6/13. 3 dropped to back class due to COVID. 2 are headed to ZOA. So really the two choices are ZLA and ZME

Lol

If one or both top scoring AGs are from (or wanted) FL that feking blows LOLOL ouch.

On the other hand, ZOA getting two people who want to be there is a actually a pretty good thing.

Hope said:

Class went 6/13. 3 dropped to back class due to COVID. 2 are headed to ZOA. So really the two choices are ZLA and ZME

Classmates falling back due to COVID do not remove spots from your list.

9/7 Enroute List

ZLA
ZLA
ZDC
ZDC
ZME
ZAB
ZMA
ZID
ZID
ZOB
ZOB
ZFW
ZHU
ZTL
ZFW

ALTs
ZNY
ZNY
ZSU
ZSU
ZAN
ZAN

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

9/7 Enroute List

ZLA
ZLA
ZDC
ZDC
ZME
ZAB
ZMA
ZID
ZID
ZOB
ZOB
ZFW
ZHU
ZTL
ZFW

ALTs
ZNY
ZNY
ZSU
ZSU
ZAN
ZAN

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Final Count was 8/18

Hope said:

Final Count was 8/18

Brutal to miss out on Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta

FlightOfTheShortGuy said:

Brutal to miss out on Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta

Yupp. No doubt someone lives 20 minutes from one of those centers but is going to have to relocate across the country because someone in their class failed. Probably the case every class.

Hope said:

Final Count was 8/18

8 academy graduates per week will solve the staffing shortage in no time

9/15 Enroute List

ZSE
ZSE
ZLA
ZME
ZJX
ZOB
ZOB
ZID
ZTL
ZFW
ZTL
ZFW
ZAU
ZHU

ALTs
ZNY
ZNY
ZSU
ZSU
ZAN
ZAN

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

9/15 Enroute List

ZSE
ZSE
ZLA
ZME
ZJX
ZOB
ZOB
ZID
ZTL
ZFW
ZTL
ZFW
ZAU
ZHU

ALTs
ZNY
ZNY
ZSU
ZSU
ZAN
ZAN

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Wow.

Hope said:

9/15 Enroute List

ZSE
ZSE
ZLA
ZME
ZJX
ZOB
ZOB
ZID
ZTL
ZFW
ZTL
ZFW
ZAU
ZHU

ALTs
ZNY
ZNY
ZSU
ZSU
ZAN
ZAN

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class went 11/15

9/22 Enroute List

ZSE
ZDC
ZLA
ZDC
ZME
ZME
ZMA
ZAB
ZMA
ZHU
ZMP
ZAU
ZID
ZBW
ZAU

ALTs
ZAN
ZAN
ZSU
ZSU
ZNY
ZNY

17 people in the class two people have requests, 15 spots on the list

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Hope said:

9/22 Enroute List

ZSE
ZDC
ZLA
ZDC
ZME
ZME
ZMA
ZAB
ZMA
ZHU
ZMP
ZAU
ZID
ZBW
ZAU

ALTs
ZAN
ZAN
ZSU
ZSU
ZNY
ZNY

17 people in the class two people have requests, 15 spots on the list

From the ATC New Hiring Discord

Class went 8/17

Hope said:

Class went 8/17

sheesh. that's rough

9/28 Enroute List

ZSE
ZDC
ZLA
ZME
ZAB
ZAB
ZMA
ZID
ZHU
ZOB
ZID
ZJX
ZOB
ZTL
ZMP
ZAU
ZDV

ALTs
ZNY
ZNY
ZAN
ZAN
ZSU
ZSU

From the ATC new Hiring Discord

AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise said:

8 academy graduates per week will solve the staffing shortage in no time

Even if they go 18/18 it doesn’t mean it would help with staffing. Academy needs to implement the new training order to ensure more quality trainees because it’s just wasting money and bodies to train people that should have never even walked into the door. I’d rather see OTS direct hire at this point

PointSixty5stalker said:

Even if they go 18/18 it doesn’t mean it would help with staffing. Academy needs to implement the new training order to ensure more quality trainees because it’s just wasting money and bodies to train people that should have never even walked into the door. I’d rather see OTS direct hire at this point

In your opinion, how exactly should screening applicants be changed in order to hire on more qualified candidates?

PointSixty5stalker said:

Even if they go 18/18 it doesn’t mean it would help with staffing. Academy needs to implement the new training order to ensure more quality trainees because it’s just wasting money and bodies to train people that should have never even walked into the door. I’d rather see OTS direct hire at this point

CTI grad there? What's this new academy training order?

The "qualified candidate" debate is always contentious. Unfortunately there is no mold that makes an ATC candidate "qualified". Just because you have previous aviation experience doesn't mean you're going to be good at this job. Some of our best trainees came with ZERO aviation experience. One of the top graduates in my academy class had been on an airplane TWICE in their life. Some of the worst trainees I've seen have a shit attitude because of their prior experience. That being said, yes, having aviation experience SHOULD give you a leg up, but it doesn't directly correlate to success.

I get it. I graduated CTI two months before they changed the rules.

BPM31694 said:

In your opinion, how exactly should screening applicants be changed in order to hire on more qualified candidates?

It’s not the applicant screening. It’s the training at the academy that doesn’t sufficiently meet the standards of what is required to produce a good enough trainee coming into the center. Not every center training is the same and the first few months of training are getting new trainees to break bad habits that they were taught at the academy to do otherwise be penalized. I think if centers were allocated the money that is given to trainees going to the academy you would see higher success rates and help our overall staffing problem. 90% of the training department just sits around all day. Their time and resources should be used teaching ATC basics and how they apply to that center specifically.